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From: Simon Horman <horms-/R6kz+dDXgpPR4JQBCEnsQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "dev-yBygre7rU0TnMu66kgdUjQ@public.gmane.org"
	<dev-yBygre7rU0TnMu66kgdUjQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"Fischer, Anna" <anna.fischer-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>,
	"netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"jhs-jkUAjuhPggJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org"
	<jhs-jkUAjuhPggJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL v2] Open vSwitch
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 16:24:18 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111201072418.GA18436@verge.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111130070219.GB32630-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 03:02:19PM +0800, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:21:32PM -0800, Jesse Gross wrote:
> >
> > It's userspace which is managing the entries in the kernel hash table
> > and it has some intelligence about aging out entries (and specifically
> > about doing it more aggressively as the number of entries increases),
> > so it's not really unbounded.  In practice, userspace actually keeps
> > the number of entries much smaller than the maximum size of the table.
> 
> Right, I thought you would have something like this.
> 
> But I think you still need to rehash the table periodically, as
> otherwise even with a limited number of entries and attacker could
> construct long chains in a hash bucket, given enough time.

I have done some work on both testing and improving the performance
of Open vSwitch with large number of flows (for some definition of large).

My current opinion is that expanding the hash table beyond its current
maximum size does not seem to yield a performance benefit.  This is
primarily because there are other performance issues that come into play
first - in particular the rate at which a dump of statistics for all flows
is made (I intend to fix this, its a user-space problem).

So while I agree that optimizing the hash is a good idea.  I don't believe
it is a bottle-neck at this point. Though I could be convinced otherwise if
long collision chains could be constructed with relatively few flows.
Something I had not considered until I rad your email just now.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-01  7:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-21 21:30 [GIT PULL v2] Open vSwitch Jesse Gross
     [not found] ` <1321911029-20707-1-git-send-email-jesse-l0M0P4e3n4LQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-21 21:30   ` [PATCH v2 1/5] genetlink: Add genl_notify() Jesse Gross
2011-11-21 21:30   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] genetlink: Add lockdep_genl_is_held() Jesse Gross
2011-11-21 21:30   ` [PATCH v2 3/5] genetlink: Add rcu_dereference_genl and genl_dereference Jesse Gross
2011-11-21 21:30   ` [PATCH v2 4/5] vlan: Move vlan_set_encap_proto() to vlan header file Jesse Gross
2011-11-21 21:30   ` [PATCH v2 5/5] net: Add Open vSwitch kernel components Jesse Gross
     [not found]     ` <1321911029-20707-6-git-send-email-jesse-l0M0P4e3n4LQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-21 21:59       ` Stephen Hemminger
     [not found]         ` <20111121135955.571254b1-We1ePj4FEcvRI77zikRAJc56i+j3xesD0e7PPNI6Mm0@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-21 23:18           ` Jesse Gross
     [not found]             ` <CAEP_g=8uoq7tJjUTAC_Sp3kOYwZJuKjD3J7Ratu67Kq56ZiyYA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-21 23:25               ` Stephen Hemminger
     [not found]                 ` <20111121152518.79e82eb8-We1ePj4FEcvRI77zikRAJc56i+j3xesD0e7PPNI6Mm0@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-21 23:49                   ` Michał Mirosław
2011-11-21 22:12       ` Stephen Hemminger
     [not found]         ` <20111121141235.71a5f8fd-We1ePj4FEcvRI77zikRAJc56i+j3xesD0e7PPNI6Mm0@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-21 23:23           ` Jesse Gross
2011-11-22  0:27       ` Stephen Hemminger
2011-11-22 17:03         ` Jesse Gross
2011-11-22 20:50   ` [GIT PULL v2] Open vSwitch David Miller
2011-11-22 23:18     ` Stephen Hemminger
     [not found]       ` <20111122151854.198da33d-We1ePj4FEcvRI77zikRAJc56i+j3xesD0e7PPNI6Mm0@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-23  5:34         ` Chris Wright
2011-11-23  7:54     ` Herbert Xu
     [not found]       ` <20111123075433.GA7928-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-23  8:12         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-11-23  8:21           ` Herbert Xu
2011-11-23 12:47           ` jamal
2011-11-23 12:55             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-11-23 13:44               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2011-11-23 16:05                 ` John Fastabend
     [not found]                   ` <4ECD19AC.8090505-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-24 13:19                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2011-11-27 19:34                       ` Lennert Buytenhek
     [not found]                         ` <20111127193438.GV795-OLH4Qvv75CYX/NnBR394Jw@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-27 21:31                           ` jamal
2011-11-23 13:13             ` David Täht
     [not found]               ` <4ECCF17D.5020509-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-23 13:36                 ` jamal
2011-11-23 14:15                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-11-24 13:04                     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2011-11-27 14:14                       ` WANG Cong
2011-11-23 12:22       ` jamal
2011-11-28 13:04         ` Herbert Xu
     [not found]           ` <20111128130409.GB16828-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-28 13:54             ` Fischer, Anna
     [not found]               ` <0199E0D51A61344794750DC57738F58E7586A74137-1IhDuF6AwYvulpxXP3Mx0dVKv6DIAtwysh7EHKopUjU@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-28 14:07                 ` Issues with openflow protocol WAS(RE: " Jamal Hadi Salim
2011-11-28 18:44                   ` Justin Pettit
     [not found]                     ` <20124540-D566-41B0-B86F-0BCA19B948AA-l0M0P4e3n4LQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-28 18:54                       ` Fischer, Anna
2011-11-28 22:55                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2011-11-28 16:04                 ` Ben Pfaff
     [not found]                   ` <20111128160400.GB6349-l0M0P4e3n4LQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-28 18:52                     ` Fischer, Anna
2011-11-28 14:51               ` Herbert Xu
     [not found]                 ` <20111128145157.GA17678-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-30  6:21                   ` Jesse Gross
2011-11-30  7:02                     ` Herbert Xu
     [not found]                       ` <20111130070219.GB32630-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-01  7:24                         ` Simon Horman [this message]
2011-12-01  7:52                           ` Herbert Xu
     [not found]                             ` <20111201075237.GA12799-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-01  8:06                               ` Simon Horman
2011-12-02 23:00                               ` Jesse Gross
2011-11-28 14:02             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2011-11-28 15:27               ` Martin Casado
2011-11-28 15:32                 ` [ovs-dev] " Jamal Hadi Salim
2011-11-28 15:50                   ` Martin Casado
2011-11-28 16:01               ` Ben Pfaff
     [not found]                 ` <20111128160117.GA6349-l0M0P4e3n4LQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-28 22:21                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2011-11-28 23:14                     ` [ovs-dev] " Ben Pfaff
2011-11-30  6:18             ` Jesse Gross
2011-11-30  7:06               ` Herbert Xu
     [not found]               ` <CAEP_g=-+F8bpkb8Qe1bPk65PQVNxz+VO7NoUrBCw6=GDUFbOFg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-30 13:23                 ` jamal

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