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From: David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
To: eric.dumazet-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next V2] gro: introduce gro_mac_header_len
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:58:59 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120206.115859.1384761795375582044.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1328546834.2220.79.camel@edumazet-HP-Compaq-6005-Pro-SFF-PC>

From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:47:14 +0100

[ Roland Dreier CC:'d ]

> gro_max_header_len can be different than hard_header_len because as Or
> Gerlitz said :
> 
> 	IPoIB advertizes hard_header_len which is bigger than the
> 	IPoIB header len, this is done such that skbs sent by the
> 	network stack have enough headroom for a "pseudoheader"
> 	which for few flows (e.g unicast arp replies and multicast)
> 	is placed there by the ipoib hard_header function and later
> 	used by the xmit function.

Translation: IPoIB's path resolution mechanism is garbage

So if IPoIB path resolution was properly integrated into the neighbour
cache state machine, instead of being implemented awkwardly in the
device transmit path, this crap wouldn't be necessary right?

So here we have yet another incredibly painful side effect of how
IPoIB path resolution works.

Roland, I want you to seriously consider a way, any way, to get rid of
how IPoIB does path resolution.  It must be fully integrated into the
neighbour layer, the neighbour layer must be knowledgable about how
path resolution is a necessary step for a neighbour entry to enter the
valid state, and I want all of this awkward neighbour handling code
removed from the transmit path of IPoIB.

And finally it must not lie about it's hardware header length.

Then we won't need crap like what is being proposed here, a
"no_this_is_the_real_hard_header_len" struct member.  That's just
rediculious.
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-06 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <alpine.LRH.2.00.1201261624540.30384@ogerlitz.voltaire.com>
     [not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1201261642340.31408@ogerlitz.voltaire.com>
     [not found]   ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1201261642340.31408-VYr5/9ddeaGSIdy2EShu12Xnswh1EIUO@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-30  4:36     ` [PATCH 2/2] IB/ipoib: fix GRO merge failure for IPoIB originated TCP streams Roland Dreier
     [not found]       ` <CAL1RGDUm8ROxFFMa+D1ZD5jF+cK+kV8aEVzspgnZFNXeuai+fA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-30  7:44         ` Shlomo Pongratz
     [not found]           ` <36F7E4A28C18BE4DB7C86058E7B607240BE9687A-SlGPd/IId7auSA5JZHE7gA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-30 18:11             ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]               ` <CAL1RGDXjjQ-PhCv-9WJX45NuovC9XiS=_7507OsyvLW_gBaJ5g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-30 18:16                 ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                   ` <CAJZOPZLhgDysSASyMLNpOrmGzEyfyHAQjGLVei6ZNSFfb7TM1w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-30 19:00                     ` Roland Dreier
2012-01-30  7:44         ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]           ` <4F264A6C.3070706-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-30  8:04             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-01-30  8:11               ` Or Gerlitz
2012-01-30  8:18               ` Herbert Xu
     [not found]                 ` <20120130081849.GA7848-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-30  8:53                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-01-30  8:57                     ` Herbert Xu
     [not found]                       ` <20120130085742.GA8262-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-30 16:43                         ` David Miller
2012-02-01  8:23                         ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                           ` <CAJZOPZJb1HvcS0XXKLvoDuoi1EfYTY-awwY2g0aHWoS=4qmdyQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01  8:38                             ` Herbert Xu
     [not found]                               ` <20120201083837.GA7081-lOAM2aK0SrRLBo1qDEOMRrpzq4S04n8Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01  9:43                                 ` Or Gerlitz
2012-02-01 14:07                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-02-02 14:01                                     ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                       ` <4F2A974B.209-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-02 14:38                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-02-02 14:44                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-02-02 21:42                                             ` Or Gerlitz
2012-02-02 15:43                                           ` Or Gerlitz
2012-01-30  8:25               ` Michał Mirosław
2012-02-02 21:58     ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]       ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1202022352560.30300-VYr5/9ddeaGSIdy2EShu12Xnswh1EIUO@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-03  7:18         ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]           ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A823733349A5D2-P5GAC/sN6hmkrb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-03  9:00             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-02-03 20:24               ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                 ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A823733349A6C9-P5GAC/sN6hmkrb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-06 15:05                   ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                     ` <4F2FEC36.6090800-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-06 15:21                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-02-06 15:22                         ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                           ` <4F2FF050.7040400-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-06 16:27                             ` [PATCH net-next] gro: introduce gro_mac_header_len Eric Dumazet
2012-02-06 16:31                               ` David Miller
     [not found]                                 ` <20120206.113145.1284864994961472499.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-06 16:44                                   ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                     ` <4F300353.2080705-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-06 17:00                                       ` David Miller
2012-02-06 16:47                                 ` [PATCH net-next V2] " Eric Dumazet
2012-02-06 16:58                                   ` David Miller [this message]
2012-02-06 17:07                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-02-06 17:11                                       ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                         ` <4F3009AE.2090605-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-06 17:19                                           ` Eric Dumazet
     [not found]                                     ` <20120206.115859.1384761795375582044.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-06 17:09                                       ` Or Gerlitz
2012-02-06 17:23                                       ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                         ` <CAG4TOxOBCbEEOtP62ZM1R3-6umebdbJFkK0bnjphLCZOgHzt1g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-06 19:12                                           ` David Miller
     [not found]                                             ` <20120206.141223.332863167187002998.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-06 19:23                                               ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                 ` <CAG4TOxNgJ3=AFuA==Km815YzW8eQ7nD_UAzkXLSXcAyaCAAvPg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-06 19:32                                                   ` David Miller
     [not found]                                                     ` <20120206.143230.1415707004934341114.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-06 19:51                                                       ` David Miller
     [not found]                                                         ` <20120206.145148.558736903670696169.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-06 19:56                                                           ` David Miller
     [not found]                                                             ` <20120206.145652.1575591691467905094.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-06 20:01                                                               ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                                 ` <CAG4TOxNcB8+SP3f0WhZG1GZ481s+=7pVRv91vzAbwDzUZD8g_A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-06 20:15                                                                   ` David Miller
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20120206.151509.1959432192519622134.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-07 19:51                                                                       ` Roland Dreier
2012-02-07 20:33                                                                         ` David Miller
     [not found]                                                                           ` <20120207.153325.1941809701255235550.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-07 20:34                                                                             ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                                               ` <CAG4TOxP2iEgT64L8vAR6P139U-HyHSxU8gdWw+cLsDwWSGkrwA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-08  0:51                                                                                 ` [PATCH] IPoIB: Stop lying about hard_header_len and use skb->cb to stash LL addresses Roland Dreier
2012-02-08  7:29                                                                                   ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373374C1C26-P5GAC/sN6hmkrb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-08  7:50                                                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-02-08 14:28                                                                                         ` Or Gerlitz
2012-02-08 20:50                                                                                   ` David Miller
2012-02-06 19:59                                                           ` [PATCH net-next V2] gro: introduce gro_mac_header_len Roland Dreier
2012-02-08 18:51                                   ` [PATCH net-next] gro: more generic L2 header check Eric Dumazet
2012-02-08 20:50                                     ` David Miller
     [not found]                                       ` <20120208.155027.599792363539233740.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-08 21:08                                         ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                           ` <CAJZOPZL_zEbNwUfVOmQeODny7HDf24gOc1HStfBxim_UtD-kvA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-08 21:31                                             ` David Miller
     [not found]                                               ` <20120208.163159.2229331610142060560.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-08 21:49                                                 ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                                   ` <CAJZOPZLLteDbm0prTN3-npubtFun=kO2DYT7ea=E-HyJ84gaiA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-08 23:09                                                     ` David Miller
     [not found]                                                       ` <20120208.180917.586628615268005115.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-08 23:20                                                         ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                                           ` <CAJZOPZ+SyGsDpnK89wNWtBn4Jdzc2tg1diKjbHSv=n75XiG+ug-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-08 23:26                                                             ` David Miller
     [not found]                                                               ` <20120208.182629.1816927738607872730.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-09 10:46                                                                 ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                                                   ` <4F33A3FC.1050205-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-09 18:52                                                                     ` David Miller
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20120209.135235.957414875716615693.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-09 20:04                                                                         ` Or Gerlitz
2012-02-09 20:29                                                                           ` David Miller
     [not found]                                                                             ` <20120209.152943.1123862542883793404.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-09 22:18                                                                               ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <CAJZOPZKUG-tT+Zd=1EiLhgRxg4VEDrisBJQ99XtARMvK68UWfA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-09 22:28                                                                                   ` David Miller

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