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From: Francois Romieu <romieu@fr.zoreil.com>
To: Peter Wu <lekensteyn@gmail.com>
Cc: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, nic_swsd@realtek.com
Subject: Re: r8169: remove "PHY reset until link up" log spam
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 22:23:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130723202340.GB31567@electric-eye.fr.zoreil.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2856794.AWy189S2qk@al>

Peter Wu <lekensteyn@gmail.com> :
[...]
> Which user wants to get log spam every ten seconds ?

In my world users - be they big workstations or runtime pm enabled
laptops - may not even care about log [1].

> I see no purpose except when a developer asks a user to turn this on,
> or except if you are a developer.

Exactly. You'll easily guess which side I'm on with my load of problem
reports that have no simple solution and slowly ages while bugfixes
flow through -stable.

> This message was added almost ten years ago, Realtek must
> certainly have improved their hardware not to be so crappy ?

With due respect to Realtek, git log or Realtek's own Release.txt file
do not exactly paint the world as a faery of unicorns.

(Realtek is not alone: manufacturers can be quite creative)

[1] Linus is not a real user.

-- 
Ueimor

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-23 20:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-23  9:55 Peter Wu
2013-07-23 12:22 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-07-23 12:38   ` [PATCH v2] " Peter Wu
2013-07-23 20:23     ` Francois Romieu
2013-07-23 20:48       ` Peter Wu
2013-07-23 21:50         ` Francois Romieu
2013-07-23 15:54 ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-07-23 16:07   ` Peter Wu
2013-07-23 16:17     ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-07-23 21:18       ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-07-23 20:23     ` Francois Romieu [this message]
2013-07-23 20:59       ` Peter Wu
2013-07-23 21:51         ` Francois Romieu

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