From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Francois Romieu Subject: Re: r8169: remove "PHY reset until link up" log spam Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 22:23:40 +0200 Message-ID: <20130723202340.GB31567@electric-eye.fr.zoreil.com> References: <4961229.bXDGvH0dpz@al> <20130723085436.70e8588c@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net> <2856794.AWy189S2qk@al> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Stephen Hemminger , David Miller , netdev@vger.kernel.org, nic_swsd@realtek.com To: Peter Wu Return-path: Received: from violet.fr.zoreil.com ([92.243.8.30]:51226 "EHLO violet.fr.zoreil.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933789Ab3GWUXz (ORCPT ); Tue, 23 Jul 2013 16:23:55 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2856794.AWy189S2qk@al> Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Peter Wu : [...] > Which user wants to get log spam every ten seconds ? In my world users - be they big workstations or runtime pm enabled laptops - may not even care about log [1]. > I see no purpose except when a developer asks a user to turn this on, > or except if you are a developer. Exactly. You'll easily guess which side I'm on with my load of problem reports that have no simple solution and slowly ages while bugfixes flow through -stable. > This message was added almost ten years ago, Realtek must > certainly have improved their hardware not to be so crappy ? With due respect to Realtek, git log or Realtek's own Release.txt file do not exactly paint the world as a faery of unicorns. (Realtek is not alone: manufacturers can be quite creative) [1] Linus is not a real user. -- Ueimor