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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] printk, netconsole: implement reliable netconsole
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 14:07:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150417180732.GF16743@htj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201504180303.GAB26011.OLJFSMVFFOHtOQ@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 03:03:46AM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> If you tolerate loss of kernel messages, adding sequence number to each UDP

Well, there's a difference between accepting loss when log buffer
overflows and when any packets get lost.

> packet will be sufficient for finding out whether the packets were lost and/or
> reordered in flight.
> 
>   printk("Hello");
>    => netconsole sends "00000000 Hello" using UDP
>   printk("netconsole");
>    => netconsole sends "00000001 netconsole" using UDP
>   printk("world\n");
>    => netconsole sends "00000002 world\n" using UDP
> 
> It might be nice to allow administrator to prefix a sequence number
> to netconsole messages for those who are using special receiver
> program (e.g. ncrx) which checks that sequence number.

That said, this is pretty much what the first 12 patches do (except
for the last printk patch, which can be taken out).  We already have
sequencing and established format to expose them to userland - try cat
/dev/kmsg, which btw is what local loggers on modern systems use
anyway.  Why introduce netconsole's own version of metadata?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-17 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-16 23:03 [PATCHSET] printk, netconsole: implement reliable netconsole Tejun Heo
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 01/16] printk: guard the amount written per line by devkmsg_read() Tejun Heo
2015-04-20 12:11   ` Petr Mladek
2015-04-20 12:33     ` Petr Mladek
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 02/16] printk: factor out message formatting from devkmsg_read() Tejun Heo
2015-04-20 12:30   ` Petr Mladek
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 03/16] printk: move LOG_NOCONS skipping into call_console_drivers() Tejun Heo
2015-04-20 12:50   ` Petr Mladek
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 04/16] printk: implement support for extended console drivers Tejun Heo
2015-04-20 15:43   ` Petr Mladek
2015-04-21 10:03     ` Petr Mladek
2015-04-27 21:09     ` Tejun Heo
2015-04-28  9:42       ` Petr Mladek
2015-04-28 14:10         ` Tejun Heo
2015-04-28 14:24           ` Petr Mladek
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 05/16] printk: implement log_seq_range() and ext_log_from_seq() Tejun Heo
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 06/16] netconsole: make netconsole_target->enabled a bool Tejun Heo
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 07/16] netconsole: factor out alloc_netconsole_target() Tejun Heo
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 08/16] netconsole: punt disabling to workqueue from netdevice_notifier Tejun Heo
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 09/16] netconsole: replace target_list_lock with console_lock Tejun Heo
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 10/16] netconsole: introduce netconsole_mutex Tejun Heo
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 11/16] netconsole: consolidate enable/disable and create/destroy paths Tejun Heo
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 12/16] netconsole: implement extended console support Tejun Heo
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 13/16] netconsole: implement retransmission support for extended consoles Tejun Heo
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 14/16] netconsole: implement ack handling and emergency transmission Tejun Heo
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 15/16] netconsole: implement netconsole receiver library Tejun Heo
2015-04-16 23:03 ` [PATCH 16/16] netconsole: update documentation for extended netconsole Tejun Heo
2015-04-17 15:35 ` [PATCHSET] printk, netconsole: implement reliable netconsole Tetsuo Handa
2015-04-17 16:28   ` Tejun Heo
2015-04-17 17:17     ` David Miller
2015-04-17 17:37       ` Tejun Heo
2015-04-17 17:43         ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-04-17 17:45           ` Tejun Heo
2015-04-17 18:03             ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-04-17 18:07               ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2015-04-17 18:20                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-04-17 18:26                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-04-18 13:09                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-04-17 18:04         ` Tejun Heo
2015-04-17 18:55         ` David Miller
2015-04-17 19:52           ` Tejun Heo
2015-04-17 20:06             ` David Miller
2015-04-21 21:51       ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-04-19  7:25 ` Rob Landley
2015-04-20 12:00   ` David Laight
2015-04-20 14:33   ` Tejun Heo

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