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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Cc: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] net: move qdisc ingress filtering on top of netfilter ingress hooks
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 06:05:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150430040535.GH8950@acer.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150430032921.GB8950@acer.localdomain>

On 30.04, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> Regarding TC as a whole, I think the problem is shared between userspace
> and the kernel. iproute TC is certainly completely failed, its unusable
> without looking at the kernel and iproute code, it hasn't even made the
> slightest infrastructrual progess in the past 15 years (*(u16)RTN_DATA(bla))?)
> and that is telling for itself. I don't extend that to ip, even though it
> suffers from the same coding problems, but let's be honest, do you really
> expect some magic is going to happen and TC userspace will suddenly become
> usable?
> 
> I don't. And we intend to provide an alternative.

For the sake of completeness - on ingress, this alternativ means simply
ditching TC. On egress, we will provide a nicely integrated way of qdiscs
and classifiers where nftables will obviously respect the qdiscs. On
ingress, there is simply no benefit in doing that at all. Hence Pablo's
patches.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-30  4:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-29 18:53 [PATCH 0/6 RFC] Netfilter ingress support (v2) Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 1/6] netfilter: cleanup struct nf_hook_ops indentation Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 2/6] netfilter: add hook list to nf_hook_state Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 3/6] netfilter: add nf_hook_list_active() Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 4/6] netfilter: move generic hook infrastructure into net/core/hooks.c Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 23:59   ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 5/6] net: add netfilter ingress hook Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 18:53 ` [PATCH 6/6] net: move qdisc ingress filtering on top of netfilter ingress hooks Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 20:27   ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-29 23:32     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-30  0:10       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30  0:20       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30  0:30         ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  0:41           ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30  0:48             ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  1:16               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-04-30  1:34                 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  2:22                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-04-30  3:11                     ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30 11:55                       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-04-30 15:33                         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-30 16:09                           ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30 16:36                             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-30 19:16                               ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30 23:01                                 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-05-01  1:15                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-04-30 10:12                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-30 19:05                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-04-30  0:37       ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  1:04         ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30  1:43           ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  2:35             ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-04-30  3:29               ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  4:05                 ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2015-04-30  6:02                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-04-30  9:24                     ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30 10:28                       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2015-04-29 23:36     ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-30  0:00       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-04-30  0:15         ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-29 21:53   ` Cong Wang
2015-04-29 23:37     ` Patrick McHardy
2015-04-29 23:42     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso

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