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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Tolga Ceylan <tolga.ceylan@gmail.com>,
	Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>,
	cgallek@google.com, Josh Snyder <josh@code406.com>,
	Aaron Conole <aconole@bytheb.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] net: Add SO_REUSEPORT_LISTEN_OFF socket option as drain mode
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:21:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160324182115.GA7678@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160324180011.GB7585@1wt.eu>

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 07:00:11PM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> Since it's not about
> load distribution and that processes are totally independant, I don't see
> well how to (ab)use BPF to achieve this.
> 
> The pattern is :
> 
>   t0 : unprivileged processes 1 and 2 are listening to the same port
>        (sock1@pid1) (sock2@pid2)
>        <------ listening ------>
> 
>   t1 : new processes are started to replace the old ones
>        (sock1@pid1) (sock2@pid2) (sock3@pid3) (sock4@pid4)
>        <------ listening ------> <------ listening ------>
> 
>   t2 : new processes signal the old ones they must stop
>        (sock1@pid1) (sock2@pid2) (sock3@pid3) (sock4@pid4)
>        <------- draining ------> <------ listening ------>
> 
>   t3 : pids 1 and 2 have finished, they go away
>                                  (sock3@pid3) (sock4@pid4)
>         <------ gone ----->      <------ listening ------>
> 

Thinking a bit more about it, would it make sense to consider that in order
to address such a scenario, the only the new (still privileged) process
reconfigures the BPF to deliver traffic only to its own sockets and that
by doing so it will result in the old one not to receive any of it anymore ?
If so that could possibly be reasonably doable then. Ie: the old processes
don't have to do anything to stop receiving traffic.

Thanks,
Willy

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-24 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-27  0:30 [PATCH 1/1] net: Add SO_REUSEPORT_LISTEN_OFF socket option as drain mode Tolga Ceylan
2015-09-27  1:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-09-27  1:37   ` Tolga Ceylan
2015-09-27  1:44 ` Aaron Conole
2015-09-27  2:02   ` Tolga Ceylan
2015-09-27  2:24     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-11  5:41       ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-11  6:19         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-11 17:05           ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-11 17:23             ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-11 18:23               ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-11 18:43                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-12  1:09                   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-15 16:14                     ` Willy Tarreau
2015-12-15 17:10                       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-15 17:43                         ` Willy Tarreau
2015-12-15 18:21                           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-15 19:44                             ` Willy Tarreau
2015-12-15 21:21                               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-16  7:38                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-12-16 16:15                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2015-12-18 16:33                                     ` Josh Snyder
2015-12-18 18:58                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2015-12-19  2:38                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-19  7:00                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2015-12-21 20:38                                             ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-21 20:41                                               ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-24  5:10                                                 ` Tolga Ceylan
2016-03-24  6:12                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-24 14:13                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-24 14:22                                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-24 14:45                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-24 15:30                                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-24 16:33                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-24 16:50                                                               ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-24 17:01                                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-24 17:26                                                                   ` Tom Herbert
2016-03-24 17:55                                                                     ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-03-24 18:20                                                                       ` Tolga Ceylan
2016-03-24 18:24                                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-24 18:37                                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-24 22:40                                                                       ` Yann Ylavic
2016-03-24 22:49                                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-24 23:40                                                                           ` Yann Ylavic
2016-03-24 23:54                                                                             ` Tom Herbert
2016-03-25  0:01                                                                               ` Yann Ylavic
2016-03-25  5:28                                                                               ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-25  6:49                                                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-25  8:53                                                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-25 11:21                                                                                     ` Yann Ylavic
2016-03-25 13:17                                                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-25  0:25                                                                           ` David Miller
2016-03-25  0:24                                                                         ` David Miller
2016-03-24 18:00                                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-24 18:21                                                                     ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2016-03-24 18:32                                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-25 15:29 Craig Gallek
2016-03-25 16:21 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-03-25 16:31   ` Craig Gallek
2016-03-25 17:00     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-25 18:31       ` Willem de Bruijn

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