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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>
Cc: si-wei liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com>,
	"Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
	Siwei Liu <loseweigh@gmail.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	virtio-dev <virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"Brandeburg, Jesse" <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@intel.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	liran.alon@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] Re: net_failover slave udev renaming (was Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v6 4/4] netvsc: refactor notifier/event handling code to use the bypass framework)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 20:26:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190227201857-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190227165205.307ed83c@cakuba.netronome.com>

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 04:52:05PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:41:32 -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > As this scheme adds much complexity to the kernel naming convention
> > > (currently it's just ethX names) that no userspace can understand.  
> > 
> > Anything that pokes at slaves needs to be specially designed anyway.
> > Naming seems like a minor issue.
> 
> Can the users who care about the naming put net_failover into
> "user space will do the bond enslavement" mode, and do the bond
> creation/management themselves from user space (in systemd/ 
> Network Manager) based on the failover flag?

Putting issues of compatibility aside (userspace tends to be confused if
you give it two devices with same MAC), how would you have it work in
practice? Timer based hacks like netvsc where if userspace didn't
respond within X seconds we assume it won't and do everything ourselves?

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-28  1:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-10 18:59 [RFC PATCH net-next v6 0/4] Enable virtio_net to act as a backup for a passthru device Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 1/4] virtio_net: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_BACKUP feature bit Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 2/4] net: Introduce generic bypass module Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-11 15:51   ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-11 19:13     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-18  9:25       ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-18 18:43         ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-18 19:13           ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-18 19:46             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-18 20:32               ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-18 22:46                 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-19  6:35                   ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-19  4:08                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-19  7:22                   ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 3/4] virtio_net: Extend virtio to use VF datapath when available Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-10 18:59 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 4/4] netvsc: refactor notifier/event handling code to use the bypass framework Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-10 21:26   ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-10 22:56     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-10 23:28     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-10 23:44       ` Siwei Liu
2018-04-10 23:59         ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-04-11  7:50       ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-11  1:21     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-11  7:53     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-02-22  1:14       ` net_failover slave udev renaming (was Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v6 4/4] netvsc: refactor notifier/event handling code to use the bypass framework) Siwei Liu
2019-02-22  1:39         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-22  3:33           ` [virtio-dev] " si-wei liu
     [not found]             ` <91d4cbb1-be7a-b53c-6b2a-99bef07e7c53@intel.com>
2019-02-22  7:55               ` si-wei liu
2019-02-22 12:58                 ` Rob Miller
2019-02-22 15:14                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-26  0:58                   ` si-wei liu
2019-02-26  1:39                     ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-02-26  2:05                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-27  0:49                         ` si-wei liu
2019-02-26  2:08                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-27  0:17                       ` si-wei liu
2019-02-27 21:57                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-02-27 22:30                           ` si-wei liu
2019-02-27 22:38                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-27 23:34                           ` si-wei liu
2019-02-27 23:50                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28  0:00                               ` Liran Alon
2019-02-28  0:03                               ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-02-28  0:38                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28  0:38                               ` si-wei liu
2019-02-28  0:41                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28  0:52                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-02-28  1:26                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2019-02-28  1:52                                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-02-28  4:47                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28 18:13                                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-02-28 19:36                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28 19:56                                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-02-28 20:14                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-02-28 23:31                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-01  0:20                                                 ` Siwei Liu
2019-03-01  1:05                                                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-03-02  0:30                                                     ` Siwei Liu
2019-02-28  9:32                                   ` si-wei liu
2019-02-28 14:26                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-01  1:30                                       ` si-wei liu
2019-03-01 13:27                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-03-01 20:55                                           ` si-wei liu

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