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From: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
To: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@gmail.com>
Cc: Xin Long <lucien.xin@gmail.com>,
	network dev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	Matteo Croce <mcroce@redhat.com>,
	Vladis Dronov <vdronov@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/2] sctp: fully support memory accounting
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 07:41:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190402114123.GB17593@hmswarspite.think-freely.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190402033610.GO16876@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 12:36:10AM -0300, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 07:31:10AM -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 04:53:45PM +0800, Xin Long wrote:
> > > sctp memory accounting is added in this patchset by using
> > > these kernel APIs on send side:
> > > 
> > >   - sk_mem_charge()
> > >   - sk_mem_uncharge()
> > >   - sk_wmem_schedule()
> > >   - sk_under_memory_pressure()
> > >   - sk_mem_reclaim()
> > > 
> > > and these on receive side:
> > > 
> > >   - sk_mem_charge()
> > >   - sk_mem_uncharge()
> > >   - sk_rmem_schedule()
> > >   - sk_under_memory_pressure()
> > >   - sk_mem_reclaim()
> > > 
> > > With sctp memory accounting, we can limit the memory allocation by
> > > either sysctl:
> > > 
> > >   # sysctl -w net.sctp.sctp_mem="10 20 50"
> > > 
> > > or cgroup:
> > > 
> > >   # echo $((8<<14)) > \
> > >     /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/sctp_mem/memory.kmem.tcp.limit_in_bytes
> > > 
> > > When the socket is under memory pressure, the send side will block
> > > and wait, while the receive side will renege or drop.
> > > 
> > > Xin Long (2):
> > >   sctp: implement memory accounting on tx path
> > >   sctp: implement memory accounting on rx path
> > > 
> > >  include/net/sctp/sctp.h |  2 +-
> > >  net/sctp/sm_statefuns.c |  6 ++++--
> > >  net/sctp/socket.c       | 10 ++++++++--
> > >  net/sctp/ulpevent.c     | 19 ++++++++-----------
> > >  net/sctp/ulpqueue.c     |  3 ++-
> > >  5 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > 2.1.0
> > > 
> > > 
> > I don't have a problem with either of these patches in terms of altering memory
> > accounting, but SCTP has the notion of accounting buffers based on either
> > sockets space or association space (based on the sndbuf_policy and rcvbuf_policy
> > sysctls).  This patch eliminates them.  I don't see this patch addressing either
> > the removal of that functionality (as the proposed accounting scheme renders
> > those sysctls useless and ignored, which may cause regressions in some
> > environments), nor does it address the possibiliy of one association starving
> > others on the same socket when they share the same socket level accounting.  I
> > think you need to look how to address that (either by re-adding the ability to
> > account in either case based on the sysctls, or deprecating eliminating the
> > sysctls and addressing the starvation issue.
> 
> That's not how I'm reading these. All original conditions are still
> there while these patches are adding a couple of restrictions more.
> What that means is that they are adding a ceiling to it, even if the
> limits are per socket or per assoc. Considering the idea of the cgroup
> limit being added here, it makes sense to me. If the cgroup is
> configured to allow at most X MB, it doesn't matter how that is
> allocated. That's a sysadmin task then, to adjust the other sysctls
> (net.sctp.sctp_mem & cia) and balance the usage, be it per socket or
> per asoc.
> 

You're right, I had the sense on the conditional backwards in my head. My bad

Series

Acked-by: Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>


      reply	other threads:[~2019-04-02 11:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-31  8:53 [PATCH net-next 0/2] sctp: fully support memory accounting Xin Long
2019-03-31  8:53 ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] sctp: implement memory accounting on tx path Xin Long
2019-03-31  8:53   ` [PATCH net-next 2/2] sctp: implement memory accounting on rx path Xin Long
2019-04-02 11:48     ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-04-02 11:48   ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] sctp: implement memory accounting on tx path Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-03-31  8:56 ` [PATCH net-next 0/2] sctp: fully support memory accounting Xin Long
2019-03-31 18:02   ` David Miller
2019-04-04  9:45     ` Xin Long
2019-04-04 17:38       ` David Miller
2019-04-05  4:49         ` Xin Long
2019-03-31 19:22 ` Matteo Croce
2019-03-31 20:10 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-03-31 21:04   ` David Miller
2019-04-01  7:25 ` Xin Long
2019-04-01 11:31 ` Neil Horman
2019-04-02  3:36   ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2019-04-02 11:41     ` Neil Horman [this message]

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