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From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	jakub.kicinski@netronome.com, sthemmin@microsoft.com,
	dsahern@gmail.com, dcbw@redhat.com, mkubecek@suse.cz,
	andrew@lunn.ch, parav@mellanox.com, saeedm@mellanox.com,
	mlxsw@mellanox.com
Subject: Re: [patch net-next rfc 0/7] net: introduce alternative names for network interfaces
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 21:16:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190719191634.GE2230@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190719093135.5807f41c@hermes.lan>

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 06:31:35PM CEST, stephen@networkplumber.org wrote:
>On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 13:00:22 +0200
>Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> wrote:
>
>> From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox.com>
>> 
>> In the past, there was repeatedly discussed the IFNAMSIZ (16) limit for
>> netdevice name length. Now when we have PF and VF representors
>> with port names like "pfXvfY", it became quite common to hit this limit:
>> 0123456789012345
>> enp131s0f1npf0vf6
>> enp131s0f1npf0vf22
>> 
>> Udev cannot rename these interfaces out-of-the-box and user needs to
>> create custom rules to handle them.
>> 
>> Also, udev has multiple schemes of netdev names. From udev code:
>>  * Type of names:
>>  *   b<number>                             - BCMA bus core number
>>  *   c<bus_id>                             - bus id of a grouped CCW or CCW device,
>>  *                                           with all leading zeros stripped [s390]
>>  *   o<index>[n<phys_port_name>|d<dev_port>]
>>  *                                         - on-board device index number
>>  *   s<slot>[f<function>][n<phys_port_name>|d<dev_port>]
>>  *                                         - hotplug slot index number
>>  *   x<MAC>                                - MAC address
>>  *   [P<domain>]p<bus>s<slot>[f<function>][n<phys_port_name>|d<dev_port>]
>>  *                                         - PCI geographical location
>>  *   [P<domain>]p<bus>s<slot>[f<function>][u<port>][..][c<config>][i<interface>]
>>  *                                         - USB port number chain
>>  *   v<slot>                               - VIO slot number (IBM PowerVM)
>>  *   a<vendor><model>i<instance>           - Platform bus ACPI instance id
>>  *   i<addr>n<phys_port_name>              - Netdevsim bus address and port name
>> 
>> One device can be often renamed by multiple patterns at the
>> same time (e.g. pci address/mac).
>> 
>> This patchset introduces alternative names for network interfaces.
>> Main goal is to:
>> 1) Overcome the IFNAMSIZ limitation
>> 2) Allow to have multiple names at the same time (multiple udev patterns)
>> 3) Allow to use alternative names as handle for commands
>> 
>> See following examples.
>> 
>> $ ip link
>> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
>>     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>> 3: dummy0: <BROADCAST,NOARP> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
>>     link/ether 7e:a2:d4:b8:91:7a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>> 
>> -> Add alternative names for dummy0:  
>> 
>> $ ip link altname add dummy0 name someothername
>> $ ip link altname add dummy0 name someotherveryveryveryverylongname
>> $ ip link
>> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
>>     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>> 3: dummy0: <BROADCAST,NOARP> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
>>     link/ether 7e:a2:d4:b8:91:7a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>     altname someothername
>>     altname someotherveryveryveryverylongname
>>   
>> -> Add bridge brx, add it's alternative name and use alternative names to  
>>    do enslavement.
>> 
>> $ ip link add name brx type bridge
>> $ ip link altname add brx name mypersonalsuperspecialbridge
>> $ ip link set someotherveryveryveryverylongname master mypersonalsuperspecialbridge
>> $ ip link
>> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
>>     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>> 3: dummy0: <BROADCAST,NOARP> mtu 1500 qdisc noop master brx state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
>>     link/ether 7e:a2:d4:b8:91:7a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>     altname someothername
>>     altname someotherveryveryveryverylongname
>> 4: brx: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
>>     link/ether 7e:a2:d4:b8:91:7a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>     altname mypersonalsuperspecialbridge
>> 
>> -> Add ipv4 address to the bridge using alternative name:  
>>     
>> $ ip addr add 192.168.0.1/24 dev mypersonalsuperspecialbridge
>> $ ip addr show mypersonalsuperspecialbridge     
>> 4: brx: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000
>>     link/ether 7e:a2:d4:b8:91:7a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>     altname mypersonalsuperspecialbridge
>>     inet 192.168.0.1/24 scope global brx
>>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>> 
>> -> Delete one of dummy0 alternative names:  
>> 
>> $ ip link altname del someotherveryveryveryverylongname    
>> $ ip link
>> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
>>     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>> 3: dummy0: <BROADCAST,NOARP> mtu 1500 qdisc noop master brx state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
>>     link/ether 7e:a2:d4:b8:91:7a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>     altname someothername
>> 4: brx: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
>>     link/ether 7e:a2:d4:b8:91:7a brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>     altname mypersonalsuperspecialbridge
>> 
>> TODO:
>> - notifications for alternative names add/removal
>> - sanitization of add/del cmds (similar to get link)
>> - test more usecases and write selftests
>> - extend support for other netlink ifaces (ovs for example)
>> - add sysfs symlink altname->basename?
>> 
>> Jiri Pirko (7):
>>   net: procfs: use index hashlist instead of name hashlist
>>   net: introduce name_node struct to be used in hashlist
>>   net: rtnetlink: add commands to add and delete alternative ifnames
>>   net: rtnetlink: put alternative names to getlink message
>>   net: rtnetlink: unify the code in __rtnl_newlink get dev with the rest
>>   net: rtnetlink: introduce helper to get net_device instance by ifname
>>   net: rtnetlink: add possibility to use alternative names as message
>>     handle
>> 
>>  include/linux/netdevice.h      |  14 ++-
>>  include/uapi/linux/if.h        |   1 +
>>  include/uapi/linux/if_link.h   |   3 +
>>  include/uapi/linux/rtnetlink.h |   7 ++
>>  net/core/dev.c                 | 152 ++++++++++++++++++++++----
>>  net/core/net-procfs.c          |   4 +-
>>  net/core/rtnetlink.c           | 192 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
>>  security/selinux/nlmsgtab.c    |   4 +-
>>  8 files changed, 334 insertions(+), 43 deletions(-)
>> 
>
>You might want to add altname/ object property in sysfs?
>I.e
>   /sys/class/net/eth0/altname/

Sysfs representation is one point on my TODO list.
I didn't look much into this, but yeah, that would work.
I also want to have symlinks altname->basename.

>

      reply	other threads:[~2019-07-19 19:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-19 11:00 [patch net-next rfc 0/7] net: introduce alternative names for network interfaces Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:00 ` [patch net-next rfc 1/7] net: procfs: use index hashlist instead of name hashlist Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:00 ` [patch net-next rfc 2/7] net: introduce name_node struct to be used in hashlist Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 16:29   ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-07-19 19:17     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 20:26       ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-07-20  7:15         ` Jiri Pirko
2019-09-13  9:52         ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-08  4:34   ` kbuild test robot
2019-07-19 11:00 ` [patch net-next rfc 3/7] net: rtnetlink: add commands to add and delete alternative ifnames Jiri Pirko
2019-07-20  3:58   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-07-20  7:20     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-09  4:11   ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-09  6:25     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-09 15:40       ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-09 15:46         ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-10 13:46           ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-10 15:50             ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-10 19:39               ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-11 22:10                 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-12 15:21                   ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-12 15:43                     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-09 16:14         ` David Ahern
2019-08-10  6:30           ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-12  1:34             ` David Ahern
2019-08-12  1:37               ` David Ahern
2019-08-12  8:31                 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-12 15:13                   ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-12 21:43                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-08-13  0:29                       ` David Ahern
2019-08-13  6:53                         ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-13  6:51                     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-12 15:40                   ` Stephen Hemminger
2019-08-12 16:23                     ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-13  6:55                     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-12 16:01                   ` David Ahern
2019-08-13  6:56                     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-26 16:09                       ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-26 16:55                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-08-26 21:46                           ` David Ahern
2019-08-26 22:15                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-08-26 22:18                               ` David Miller
2019-08-26 22:24                                 ` David Ahern
2019-08-26 22:25                                   ` David Miller
2019-08-27  0:17                                     ` David Ahern
2019-08-27  5:09                                       ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-27  7:08                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-27  8:22                                   ` David Miller
2019-08-27  9:35                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-27 15:14                                       ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-28  7:07                                         ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-29  4:36                                           ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-29  5:26                                             ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-30 14:35                                               ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-08-30 14:47                                                 ` David Ahern
2019-08-30 17:04                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-30 14:49                                                 ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-30 17:03                                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2019-09-12 11:59                                                   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-09-13  8:21                                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-09-13 14:50                                                     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-08-27  4:55                             ` Michal Kubecek
2019-08-27 13:43                               ` David Ahern
2019-08-10  6:32         ` Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:00 ` [patch net-next rfc 4/7] net: rtnetlink: put alternative names to getlink message Jiri Pirko
2019-07-20  3:59   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-07-20  7:17     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:00 ` [patch net-next rfc 5/7] net: rtnetlink: unify the code in __rtnl_newlink get dev with the rest Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:00 ` [patch net-next rfc 6/7] net: rtnetlink: introduce helper to get net_device instance by ifname Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:00 ` [patch net-next rfc 7/7] net: rtnetlink: add possibility to use alternative names as message handle Jiri Pirko
2019-07-20  3:59   ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-07-20  7:22     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:03 ` [patch iproute2 rfc 1/2] ip: add support for alternative name addition/deletion/list Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 11:03 ` [patch iproute2 rfc 2/2] ip: allow to use alternative names as handle Jiri Pirko
2019-07-19 16:31 ` [patch net-next rfc 0/7] net: introduce alternative names for network interfaces Stephen Hemminger
2019-07-19 19:16   ` Jiri Pirko [this message]

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