From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_2 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA9EC3A5A3 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 17:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790ED2189D for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 17:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727922AbfH2RtL (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Aug 2019 13:49:11 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:45240 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727234AbfH2RtK (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Aug 2019 13:49:10 -0400 Received: from gandalf.local.home (cpe-66-24-58-225.stny.res.rr.com [66.24.58.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 35F9321726; Thu, 29 Aug 2019 17:49:08 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 13:49:06 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Alexei Starovoitov Cc: Andy Lutomirski , Peter Zijlstra , Alexei Starovoitov , Kees Cook , LSM List , James Morris , Jann Horn , Masami Hiramatsu , "David S. Miller" , Daniel Borkmann , Network Development , bpf , kernel-team , Linux API Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next] bpf, capabilities: introduce CAP_BPF Message-ID: <20190829134906.7ecae4e2@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20190829172309.xd73ax4wgsjmv6zg@ast-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com> References: <20190827205213.456318-1-ast@kernel.org> <20190828071421.GK2332@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20190828220826.nlkpp632rsomocve@ast-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com> <20190829093434.36540972@gandalf.local.home> <20190829172309.xd73ax4wgsjmv6zg@ast-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 10:23:10 -0700 Alexei Starovoitov wrote: > > CAP_TRACE_KERNEL: Use all of perf, ftrace, kprobe, etc. > > > > CAP_TRACE_USER: Use all of perf with scope limited to user mode and uprobes. > > imo that makes little sense from security pov, since > such CAP_TRACE_KERNEL (ex kprobe) can trace "unrelated user process" > just as well. Yet not letting it do cleanly via uprobe. > Sort of like giving a spare key for back door of the house and > saying no, you cannot have main door key. I took it as CAP_TRACE_KERNEL as a superset of CAP_TRACE_USER. That is, if you have CAP_TRACE_KERNEL, by default you get USER. Where as CAP_TRACE_USER, is much more limiting. -- Steve