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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Brian Vazquez <brianvv@google.com>
Cc: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>,
	"bpf@vger.kernel.org" <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Kernel Team <Kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 00/13] bpf: adding map batch processing support
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 18:35:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190904013550.bfq3kccwe6kghmrg@ast-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMzD94Qge5CtUZ+_0DsuQ_VLpmoADDZemFH1=WA-H8P0ax8qDQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 04:07:17PM -0700, Brian Vazquez wrote:
> 
> We could also modify get_next_key behaviour _only_ when it's called
> from a dumping function in which case we do know that we want to move
> forward not backwards (basically if prev_key is not found, then
> retrieve the first key in the next bucket).
> 
> That approach might miss entries that are in the same bucket where the
> prev_key used to be, but missing entries is something that can always
> happen (new additions in previous buckets), we can not control that
> and as it has said before, if users care about consistency they can
> use map-in-map.

for dump-all case such miss of elements might be ok-ish,
but for delete-all it's probably not.
Imagine bpf prog is doing delete and bcc script is doing delete-all.
With 'go to the next bucket' logic there will be a case where
both kernel and user side are doing delete, but some elements are still left.
True that map-in-map is the answer, but if we're doing new get_next op
we probably should do it with less corner cases.

> > This all requires new per-map implementations unfortunately :-(
> > We were trying to see if we can somehow improve the existing bpf_map_ops
> > to be more friendly towards batching.
> 
> Agreed that one of the motivations for current batching implementation
> was to re use the existing code as much as we can. Although this might
> be a good opportunity to do some per-map implementations as long as
> they behave better than the current ones.

I don't think non reuse of get_next is a big deal.
Adding another get_next_v2 to all maps is a low cost comparing
with advantages of having stable iterate api.

stable walk over hash map is imo more important feature of api than
perf improvement brought by batching.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-04  1:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-29  6:45 [PATCH bpf-next 00/13] bpf: adding map batch processing support Yonghong Song
2019-08-29  6:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next 01/13] bpf: add bpf_map_value_size and bp_map_copy_value helper functions Yonghong Song
2019-08-29 22:04   ` Song Liu
2019-08-30  6:40     ` Yonghong Song
2019-08-29  6:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next 02/13] bpf: refactor map_update_elem() Yonghong Song
2019-08-29 23:37   ` Song Liu
2019-08-29  6:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next 03/13] bpf: refactor map_delete_elem() Yonghong Song
2019-08-29 23:39   ` Song Liu
2019-08-29  6:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next 04/13] bpf: refactor map_get_next_key() Yonghong Song
2019-08-29 23:39   ` Song Liu
2019-08-29  6:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next 05/13] bpf: adding map batch processing support Yonghong Song
2019-08-29 23:01   ` Brian Vazquez
2019-08-30  6:39     ` Yonghong Song
2019-08-30  6:58       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-08-29  6:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next 06/13] tools/bpf: sync uapi header bpf.h Yonghong Song
2019-08-29  6:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next 07/13] tools/bpf: implement libbpf API functions for map batch operations Yonghong Song
2019-08-29  6:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next 08/13] tools/bpf: add test for bpf_map_update_batch() Yonghong Song
2019-08-29  6:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next 09/13] tools/bpf: add test for bpf_map_lookup_batch() Yonghong Song
2019-08-29  6:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next 10/13] tools/bpf: add test for bpf_map_lookup_and_delete_batch() Yonghong Song
2019-08-29  6:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next 11/13] tools/bpf: add test for bpf_map_delete_batch() Yonghong Song
2019-08-29  6:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next 12/13] tools/bpf: add a multithreaded test for map batch operations Yonghong Song
2019-08-29  6:45 ` [PATCH bpf-next 13/13] tools/bpf: measure map batching perf Yonghong Song
2019-08-29 18:39 ` [PATCH bpf-next 00/13] bpf: adding map batch processing support Jakub Kicinski
2019-08-29 23:13   ` Brian Vazquez
2019-08-30  0:15     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-08-30 20:15       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2019-08-30 20:55         ` Yonghong Song
2019-08-30 21:10           ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-08-30 22:24             ` Yonghong Song
2019-08-30 21:18           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2019-09-03 21:01             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-09-03 22:30               ` Stanislav Fomichev
2019-09-03 23:07                 ` Brian Vazquez
2019-09-04  1:35                   ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2019-09-03 23:07                 ` Yonghong Song
2019-08-30  7:25   ` Yonghong Song
2019-08-30 21:35     ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-08-30 22:38       ` Yonghong Song

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