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From: Ido Schimmel <idosch@idosch.org>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>, roopa@cumulusnetworks.com
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>, mlxsw <mlxsw@mellanox.com>,
	Ido Schimmel <idosch@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next 12/15] ipv4: Add "in hardware" indication to routes
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 17:43:40 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191004144340.GA15825@splinter> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e4f0dbf6-2852-c658-667b-65374e73a27d@gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 07:55:16PM -0600, David Ahern wrote:
> On 10/2/19 11:37 PM, Ido Schimmel wrote:
> >>>>> The new indication is dumped to user space via a new flag (i.e.,
> >>>>> 'RTM_F_IN_HW') in the 'rtm_flags' field in the ancillary header.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> nice series Ido. why not call this RTM_F_OFFLOAD to keep it consistent
> >>>> with the nexthop offload indication ?.
> >>>
> >>> See the second paragraph of this description.
> >>
> >> I read it multiple times. It does not explain why RTM_F_OFFLOAD is not
> >> used. Unless there is good reason RTM_F_OFFLOAD should be the name for
> >> consistency with all of the other OFFLOAD flags.
> > 
> > David, I'm not sure I understand the issue. You want the flag to be
> > called "RTM_F_OFFLOAD" to be consistent with "RTNH_F_OFFLOAD"? Are you
> > OK with iproute2 displaying it as "in_hw"? Displaying it as "offload" is
> > really wrong for the reasons I mentioned above. Host routes (for
> > example) do not offload anything from the kernel, they just reside in
> > hardware and trap packets...
> > 
> > The above is at least consistent with tc where we already have
> > "TCA_CLS_FLAGS_IN_HW".
> > 
> >> I realize rtm_flags is overloaded and the lower 8 bits contains RTNH_F
> >> flags, but that can be managed with good documentation - that RTNH_F
> >> is for the nexthop and RTM_F is for the prefix.
> > 
> > Are you talking about documenting the display strings in "ip-route" man
> > page or something else? If we stick with "offload" and "in_hw" then they
> > should probably be documented there to avoid confusion.
> > 
> 
> Sounds like there are 2 cases for prefixes that should be flagged to the
> user -- "offloaded" (as in traffic is offloaded) and  "in_hw" (prefix is
> in hardware but forwarding is not offloaded).

Sounds good. Are you and Roopa OK with the below?

RTM_F_IN_HW - route is in hardware
RTM_F_OFFLOAD - route is offloaded

For example, host routes will have the first flag set, whereas prefix
routes will have both flags set.

Together with the existing offload flags for nexthops and neighbours
this provides great visibility into the entire offload process.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-04 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-02  8:40 [RFC PATCH net-next 00/15] Simplify IPv4 route offload API Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02  8:40 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 01/15] ipv4: Add temporary events to the FIB notification chain Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02  8:40 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 02/15] ipv4: Notify route after insertion to the routing table Ido Schimmel
2019-10-03  1:34   ` David Ahern
2019-10-03  5:16     ` Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02  8:40 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 03/15] ipv4: Notify route if replacing currently offloaded one Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02  8:40 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 04/15] ipv4: Notify newly added route if should be offloaded Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02  8:40 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 05/15] ipv4: Handle route deletion notification Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02  8:40 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 06/15] ipv4: Handle route deletion notification during flush Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02  8:40 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 07/15] ipv4: Only Replay routes of interest to new listeners Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02 17:44   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-10-03 13:04     ` Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02  8:40 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 08/15] mlxsw: spectrum_router: Start using new IPv4 route notifications Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02 17:52   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-10-02 18:01     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-10-03 15:10       ` Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02  8:40 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 09/15] ipv4: Remove old route notifications and convert listeners Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02  8:40 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 10/15] ipv4: Replace route in list before notifying Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02  8:40 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 11/15] ipv4: Encapsulate function arguments in a struct Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02  8:41 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 12/15] ipv4: Add "in hardware" indication to routes Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02 15:58   ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-10-02 18:21     ` Jiri Pirko
2019-10-03  2:34       ` David Ahern
2019-10-03  5:37         ` Ido Schimmel
2019-10-04  1:55           ` David Ahern
2019-10-04 14:43             ` Ido Schimmel [this message]
2019-10-04 16:38               ` David Ahern
2019-10-04 17:43                 ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-10-04 23:20                   ` David Ahern
2019-10-03  5:40         ` Jiri Pirko
2019-10-03 12:59     ` Ido Schimmel
2019-10-04  4:25       ` Roopa Prabhu
2019-10-02  8:41 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 13/15] mlxsw: spectrum_router: Mark routes as "in hardware" Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02 18:27   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-10-03 15:16     ` Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02  8:41 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 14/15] netdevsim: fib: " Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02  8:41 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 15/15] selftests: netdevsim: Add test for route offload API Ido Schimmel
2019-10-02 18:17 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 00/15] Simplify IPv4 " Jiri Pirko
2019-10-03  5:18   ` Ido Schimmel

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