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From: Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>
To: Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>
Cc: "sbrivio@redhat.com" <sbrivio@redhat.com>,
	"nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com" <nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com>,
	"dsahern@gmail.com" <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	"sd@queasysnail.net" <sd@queasysnail.net>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"stephen@networkplumber.org" <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Ariel Levkovich <lariel@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 0/3] VGT+ support
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 15:10:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191105151031.1e7c6bbc@cakuba.netronome.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8c740914b7627a10e05313393442d914a42772d1.camel@mellanox.com>

On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 22:52:18 +0000, Saeed Mahameed wrote:
> > > it should be just like ethtool we want to to replace it but we know
> > > we are not there yet, so we carefully add only necessary things
> > > with
> > > lots of auditing, same should go here.  
> > 
> > Worked out amazingly for ethtool, right?  
> 
> Obviously, no one would have agreed to such total shutdown for ethtool,
> we eventually decided not to block ethtool unless we have the netlink
> adapter working .. legacy mode should get the same treatment.
> 
> Bottom line for the same reason we decided that ethtool is not totally
> dead until ethtool netlink interface is complete, we should still
> support selective and basic sriov legacy mode extensions until bridge
> offloads is complete. 

But switchdev _is_ _here_. _Today_. From uAPI perspective it's done,
and ready. We're missing the driver and user space parts, but no core
and uAPI extensions. It's just L2 switching and there's quite a few
switch drivers upstream, as I'm sure you know :/ 

ethtool is not ready from uAPI perspective, still.

It'd be more accurate to compare to legacy IOCTLs, like arguing that 
we need a small tweak to IOCTLs when Netlink is already there..

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-05 23:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-31 19:47 [PATCH net-next v2 0/3] VGT+ support Ariel Levkovich
2019-10-31 19:47 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/3] net: Support querying specific VF properties Ariel Levkovich
2019-10-31 19:47 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/3] net: Add SRIOV VGT+ support Ariel Levkovich
2019-10-31 19:47 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/3] net/mlx5: " Ariel Levkovich
2019-10-31 20:31 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/3] " David Miller
2019-10-31 22:20   ` Ariel Levkovich
2019-10-31 22:58     ` David Miller
2019-11-01 14:55       ` Ariel Levkovich
2019-11-01  0:23 ` Jakub Kicinski
     [not found]   ` <8d7db56c-376a-d809-4a65-bfc2baf3254f@mellanox.com>
2019-11-01 21:28     ` Saeed Mahameed
2019-11-02  0:21       ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-11-05  1:38         ` Saeed Mahameed
2019-11-05  1:47           ` David Ahern
2019-11-05  2:35             ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-11-05 20:10               ` Saeed Mahameed
2019-11-05 21:55                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-11-05 22:52                   ` Saeed Mahameed
2019-11-05 23:10                     ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2019-11-05 23:48                       ` Saeed Mahameed
2019-11-06  1:38                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-11-06 22:21                           ` Saeed Mahameed
2019-11-07 10:24                             ` Jiri Pirko
2019-11-13 22:55                           ` Keller, Jacob E
2019-11-14  2:25                             ` Jakub Kicinski

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