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[142.68.57.212]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n185sm6205781qke.82.2020.04.16.11.05.36 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 16 Apr 2020 11:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jgg by mlx.ziepe.ca with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jP8tM-00069t-Dc; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 15:05:36 -0300 Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 15:05:36 -0300 From: Jason Gunthorpe To: Arnd Bergmann Cc: Jani Nikula , Saeed Mahameed , "narmstrong@baylibre.com" , "masahiroy@kernel.org" , "Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com" , "leon@kernel.org" , "davem@davemloft.net" , "linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "nico@fluxnic.net" , "linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" , "dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org" , "kieran.bingham+renesas@ideasonboard.com" , "a.hajda@samsung.com" , "jonas@kwiboo.se" , "netdev@vger.kernel.org" , "airlied@linux.ie" , "jernej.skrabec@siol.net" Subject: Re: [RFC 0/6] Regressions for "imply" behavior change Message-ID: <20200416180536.GW5100@ziepe.ca> References: <20200414152312.GF5100@ziepe.ca> <834c7606743424c64951dd2193ca15e29799bf18.camel@mellanox.com> <874ktj4tvn.fsf@intel.com> <20200416145235.GR5100@ziepe.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 05:58:31PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 4:52 PM Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 02:38:50PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:17 PM Jani Nikula wrote: > > > > Of course, this is all just talk until someone(tm) posts a patch > > > > actually making the change. I've looked at the kconfig tool sources > > > > before; not going to make the same mistake again. > > > > > > Right. OTOH whoever implements it gets to pick the color of the > > > bikeshed. ;-) > > > > I hope someone takes it up, especially now that imply, which > > apparently used to do this, doesn't any more :) > > The old 'imply' was something completely different, it was more of a > 'try to select if you can so we can assume it's there, but give up > if it can only be a module and we need it to be built-in". But it seems to have done this as a side-effect, and drivers were relying on that, otherwise this series wouldn't exist.. Jason