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From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
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	linyunsheng@huawei.com, lihong.yang@intel.com,
	vikas.gupta@broadcom.com, sridhar.samudrala@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] current devlink extension plan for NICs
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 07:32:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200511053237.GB2245@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw7ROwOhZNS+dREeFurjn=YxUVWStL+WKZxHgZFLRX+X0w@mail.gmail.com>

Sun, May 10, 2020 at 06:30:59PM CEST, dave.taht@gmail.com wrote:
>On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 7:46 AM Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> wrote:
>>
>> Hello guys.
>>
>> Anyone has any opinion on the proposal? Or should I take it as a silent
>> agreement? :)
>>
>> We would like to go ahead and start sending patchsets.
>
>I gotta say that the whole thing makes my head really hurt, and while
>this conversation is about how to go about configuring things,
>I've been unable to get a grip on how flows will actually behave with
>these offloads present.

As you said, this is about configuration. Not the actual packet
processing.


>
>My overall starting point for thinking about this stuff was described
>in this preso to broadcom a few years back:
>http://flent-fremont.bufferbloat.net/~d/broadcom_aug9.pdf
>
>More recently I did what I think is my funniest talk ever on these
>subjects: https://blog.apnic.net/2020/01/22/bufferbloat-may-be-solved-but-its-not-over-yet/
>
>Make some popcorn, take a look. :) I should probably have covered
>ecn's (mis)behaviors at the end, but I didn't.
>
>Steven hemminger's lca talk on these subjects was also a riot...
>
>so somehow going from my understanding of how stuff gets configured,
>to the actual result, is needed, for me to have any opinion at all.
>You
>have this stuff basically running already? Can you run various
>flent.org tests through it?
>
>>
>> Thanks!
>
>
>
>-- 
>"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public
>relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman
>
>dave@taht.net <Dave Täht> CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-11  5:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-01  9:14 [RFC v2] current devlink extension plan for NICs Jiri Pirko
2020-05-04  2:12 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2020-05-04 11:42   ` Jiri Pirko
2020-05-10 14:45 ` Jiri Pirko
2020-05-10 16:30   ` Dave Taht
2020-05-11  5:32     ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2020-05-11 22:37   ` Jacob Keller
2020-05-13 13:00 ` [oss-drivers] " Simon Horman
2020-05-14  6:07   ` Jiri Pirko
2020-05-14 23:52 ` Jacob Keller
2020-05-15  9:30   ` Jiri Pirko
2020-05-15 21:36     ` Jacob Keller
2020-05-18  6:52       ` Jiri Pirko
2020-05-18 21:05         ` Jacob Keller
2020-05-19  5:17           ` Parav Pandit
2020-05-19 19:45             ` Jacob Keller
2020-05-20 12:58               ` Parav Pandit
2020-05-19  5:19           ` Jiri Pirko
2020-05-19  9:22 ` [RFC v3] " Jiri Pirko

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