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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Helmut Grohne <helmut.grohne@intenta.de>,
	"andrew@lunn.ch" <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"f.fainelli@gmail.com" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"hkallweit1@gmail.com" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"linux@armlinux.org.uk" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"woojung.huh@microchip.com" <woojung.huh@microchip.com>,
	"UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com" <UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com>,
	"vivien.didelot@gmail.com" <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: phy: phy_remove_link_mode should not advertise new modes
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 11:20:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200715112031.24c2d8ad@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200715070345.GA3452@laureti-dev>

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 09:03:45 +0200 Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:07:10PM +0200, David Miller wrote:
> > From: Helmut Grohne <helmut.grohne@intenta.de>
> > Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:25:42 +0200
> >   
> > > When doing "ip link set dev ... up" for a ksz9477 backed link,
> > > ksz9477_phy_setup is called and it calls phy_remove_link_mode to remove
> > > 1000baseT HDX. During phy_remove_link_mode, phy_advertise_supported is
> > > called.
> > > 
> > > If one wants to advertise fewer modes than the supported ones, one
> > > usually reduces the advertised link modes before upping the link (e.g.
> > > by passing an appropriate .link file to udev).  However upping
> > > overrwrites the advertised link modes due to the call to
> > > phy_advertise_supported reverting to the supported link modes.
> > > 
> > > It seems unintentional to have phy_remove_link_mode enable advertising
> > > bits and it does not match its description in any way. Instead of
> > > calling phy_advertise_supported, we should simply clear the link mode to
> > > be removed from both supported and advertising.  
> > 
> > The problem is that we can't allow the advertised setting to exceed
> > what is in the supported list.
> > 
> > That's why this helper is coded this way from day one.  
> 
> Would you mind going into a little more detail here?
> 
> I think you have essentially two possible cases with respect to that
> assertion.
> 
> Case A: advertised does not exceed supported before the call to
>         phy_remove_link_mode.
> 
>     In this case, the relevant link mode is removed from both supported
>     and advertised after my patch and therefore the requested invariant
>     is still ok.
> 
> Case B: advertised exceeds supported prior to the call to
>         phy_remove_link_mode.
> 
>     You said that we cannot allow this to happen. So it would seem to be
>     a bug somewhere else. Do you see phy_remove_link_mode as a tool to
>     fix up a violated invariant?

Is 

Case C: driver does not initialize advertised at all and depends on
        phy_remove_link_mode() to do it

possible?

> It also is not true that the current code ensures your assertion.
> Specifically, phy_advertise_supported copies the pause bits from the old
> advertised to the new one regardless of whether they're set in
> supported. I believe this is expected, but it means that your invariant
> needs to be:
> 
>     We cannot allow advertised to exceed the supported list for
>     non-pause bits.
> 
> In any case, having a helper called "phy_remove_link_mode" enable bits
> in the advertised bit field is fairly unexpected. Do you disagree with
> this being a bug?

Hm. I think it's clear that the change may uncover other bugs, but
perhaps indeed those should be addressed elsewhere.

Andrew, WDYT?

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-15 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-14  8:25 [PATCH] net: phy: phy_remove_link_mode should not advertise new modes Helmut Grohne
2020-07-14 21:07 ` David Miller
2020-07-15  7:03   ` Helmut Grohne
2020-07-15 18:20     ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2020-07-15 19:01       ` Andrew Lunn
2020-07-15 18:51     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-07-15 19:27 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-07-16 12:57   ` [PATCH v2] net: dsa: microchip: call phy_remove_link_mode during probe Helmut Grohne
2020-07-16 14:10     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-07-17  8:18       ` Helmut Grohne
2020-07-17 13:18         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-07-20  9:04           ` [PATCH v3] " Helmut Grohne
2020-07-20 20:43             ` Andrew Lunn
2020-07-21 11:07               ` [PATCH v4] " Helmut Grohne
2020-07-21 15:20                 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-07-21 22:50                 ` David Miller
2020-07-20 21:04             ` [PATCH v3] " Andrew Lunn
2020-07-21  7:38               ` Helmut Grohne

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