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From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 1/7] net: devlink: Add unused port flavour
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 16:34:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200930143452.GJ8264@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200930135725.GH3996795@lunn.ch>

Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 03:57:25PM CEST, andrew@lunn.ch wrote:
>> I get it. But I as I wrote previously, I wonder if used/unused should
>> not be another attribute. Then the flavour can be "undefined".
>
>In the DSA world, it is not undefined. It is clear defined as
>unused. And it cannot be on-the-fly changed. It is a property of the
>PCB, in that the pins exist on the chip, but they simply don't go
>anywhere on the PCB. This is quite common on appliances, e.g. The
>switch has 7 ports, but the installation in the aircraft is a big
>ring, so there is a 'left', 'right', 'aux' and the CPU port. That
>leaves 3 ports totally unused.

Understand the DSA usecase.


>
>> But, why do you want to show "unused" ports? Can the user do something
>> with them? What is the value in showing them?
>
>Because they are just ports, they can have regions. We can look at the

What do you mean by "regions"? Devlink regions? They are per-device, not
per-port. I have to be missing something.


>region and be sure they are powered off, the boot loader etc has not
>left them in a funny state, bridged to other ports, etc.

It is driver's responsibility to ensure that. But that does not mean
that the devlink port needs to be visible.


>
>Regions are a developers tool, not a 'user' tools. So the idea of
>hiding them by default in 'devlink port show' does make some sense,
>and have a flag like -d for details, which includes them. In 'devlink
>region show' i would probably list all regions, independent of any -d
>flag.
>
>      Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-30 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-26 21:06 [PATCH net-next v2 0/7] mv88e6xxx: Add per port devlink regions Andrew Lunn
2020-09-26 21:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/7] net: devlink: Add unused port flavour Andrew Lunn
2020-09-26 21:51   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-09-26 22:00   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-09-27  0:33     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-09-28 21:31   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-28 22:05     ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-09-28 22:07       ` Andrew Lunn
2020-09-28 22:35         ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-28 22:36           ` Florian Fainelli
2020-09-28 23:39             ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-09-29  1:46               ` Florian Fainelli
2020-09-29 11:03                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-09-29 13:07                   ` Jiri Pirko
2020-09-29 13:48                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-09-29 15:12                       ` Jiri Pirko
2020-09-29 13:57                     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-09-30  6:56                       ` Jiri Pirko
2020-09-30 13:57                         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-09-30 14:34                           ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2020-09-30 14:53                             ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-01  7:39                               ` Jiri Pirko
2020-09-26 21:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/7] net: dsa: Make use of devlink port flavour unused Andrew Lunn
2020-09-26 22:51   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-09-26 21:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/7] net: dsa: Register devlink ports before calling DSA driver setup() Andrew Lunn
2020-09-26 23:37   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-09-27  0:45     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-09-26 21:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/7] net: devlink: Add support for port regions Andrew Lunn
2020-09-26 21:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 5/7] net: dsa: Add devlink port regions support to DSA Andrew Lunn
2020-09-26 23:42   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-09-26 21:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 6/7] net: dsa: Add helper for converting devlink port to ds and port Andrew Lunn
2020-09-26 21:06 ` [PATCH net-next v2 7/7] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: Add per port devlink regions Andrew Lunn
2020-09-26 23:52   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-09-27  1:03     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-09-27  1:11       ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-09-26 22:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/7] " Marek Behun
2020-09-26 22:11   ` Vladimir Oltean

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