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From: Tom Parkin <tparkin@katalix.com>
To: Guillaume Nault <gnault@redhat.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, jchapman@katalix.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] add ppp_generic ioctl to bridge channels
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 12:12:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201117121223.GA4640@katalix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201115115959.GD11274@linux.home>

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On  Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 12:59:59 +0100, Guillaume Nault wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 11:54:07AM +0000, Tom Parkin wrote:
> > On  Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 23:51:53 +0100, Guillaume Nault wrote:
> > > BTW, shouldn't we have an "UNBRIDGE" command to remove the bridge
> > > between two channels?
> > 
> > I'm not sure of the usecase for it to be honest.  Do you have
> > something specific in mind?
> 
> I don't know if there'd be a real production use case. I proposed it
> because, in my experience, the diffucult part of any new feature is
> the "undo" operation. That's where many race conditions are found.
> 
> Having a way to directly revert a BRIDGE operation might help testing
> the undo path (otherwise it's just triggered as a side effect of
> closing a file descriptor). I personally find that having symmetrical
> "do" and "undo" operations helps me thinking precisely about how to
> manage concurency. But that's probably a matter of preference. And that
> can even be done without exposing the "undo" operation to user space
> (it's just more difficult to test).
> 
> Anyway, that was just a suggestion. I have no strong opinion.

Thanks for clarifying the point -- I agree with you about the "undo"
operation helping to expose race conditions.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-17 12:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-06 18:16 [RFC PATCH 0/2] add ppp_generic ioctl to bridge channels Tom Parkin
2020-11-06 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] ppp: add PPPIOCBRIDGECHAN ioctl Tom Parkin
2020-11-09 23:24   ` Guillaume Nault
2020-11-10 12:04     ` Tom Parkin
2020-11-15 16:28       ` Guillaume Nault
2020-11-17 12:26         ` Tom Parkin
2020-11-17 14:06           ` Guillaume Nault
2020-11-06 18:16 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] docs: update ppp_generic.rst to describe ioctl PPPIOCBRIDGECHAN Tom Parkin
2020-11-09 22:51 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] add ppp_generic ioctl to bridge channels Guillaume Nault
2020-11-10 11:54   ` Tom Parkin
2020-11-15 11:59     ` Guillaume Nault
2020-11-17 12:12       ` Tom Parkin [this message]
2020-11-09 23:52 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-10  9:28   ` Guillaume Nault
2020-11-10 12:42     ` Tom Parkin
2020-11-10 15:02       ` Guillaume Nault
2020-11-10 16:47     ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-17 12:54       ` Tom Parkin
2020-11-17 14:17         ` Guillaume Nault
2020-11-17 16:52         ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-11-18 20:24       ` Guillaume Nault
2020-11-20  1:17         ` Jakub Kicinski

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