netdev.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@amazon.co.jp>
To: <kafai@fb.com>
Cc: <ast@kernel.org>, <benh@amazon.com>, <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	<daniel@iogearbox.net>, <davem@davemloft.net>,
	<edumazet@google.com>, <kuba@kernel.org>, <kuni1840@gmail.com>,
	<kuniyu@amazon.co.jp>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH bpf-next 3/8] tcp: Migrate TCP_ESTABLISHED/TCP_SYN_RECV sockets in accept queues.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 07:09:22 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201119220922.75145-1-kuniyu@amazon.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201118235017.xrudgf6bfwgkaukh@kafai-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

From: Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 15:50:17 -0800
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 06:40:18PM +0900, Kuniyuki Iwashima wrote:
> > This patch lets reuseport_detach_sock() return a pointer of struct sock,
> > which is used only by inet_unhash(). If it is not NULL,
> > inet_csk_reqsk_queue_migrate() migrates TCP_ESTABLISHED/TCP_SYN_RECV
> > sockets from the closing listener to the selected one.
> > 
> > Listening sockets hold incoming connections as a linked list of struct
> > request_sock in the accept queue, and each request has reference to a full
> > socket and its listener. In inet_csk_reqsk_queue_migrate(), we unlink the
> > requests from the closing listener's queue and relink them to the head of
> > the new listener's queue. We do not process each request, so the migration
> > completes in O(1) time complexity. However, in the case of TCP_SYN_RECV
> > sockets, we will take special care in the next commit.
> > 
> > By default, we select the last element of socks[] as the new listener.
> > This behaviour is based on how the kernel moves sockets in socks[].
> > 
> > For example, we call listen() for four sockets (A, B, C, D), and close the
> > first two by turns. The sockets move in socks[] like below. (See also [1])
> > 
> >   socks[0] : A <-.      socks[0] : D          socks[0] : D
> >   socks[1] : B   |  =>  socks[1] : B <-.  =>  socks[1] : C
> >   socks[2] : C   |      socks[2] : C --'
> >   socks[3] : D --'
> > 
> > Then, if C and D have newer settings than A and B, and each socket has a
> > request (a, b, c, d) in their accept queue, we can redistribute old
> > requests evenly to new listeners.
> I don't think it should emphasize/claim there is a specific way that
> the kernel-pick here can redistribute the requests evenly.  It depends on
> how the application close/listen.  The userspace can not expect the
> ordering of socks[] will behave in a certain way.

I've expected replacing listeners by generations as a general use case.
But exactly. Users should not expect the undocumented kernel internal.


> The primary redistribution policy has to depend on BPF which is the
> policy defined by the user based on its application logic (e.g. how
> its binary restart work).  The application (and bpf) knows which one
> is a dying process and can avoid distributing to it.
> 
> The kernel-pick could be an optional fallback but not a must.  If the bpf
> prog is attached, I would even go further to call bpf to redistribute
> regardless of the sysctl, so I think the sysctl is not necessary.

I also think it is just an optional fallback, but to pick out a different
listener everytime, choosing the moved socket was reasonable. So the even
redistribution for a specific use case is a side effect of such socket
selection.

But, users should decide to use either way:
  (1) let the kernel select a new listener randomly
  (2) select a particular listener by eBPF

I will update the commit message like:
The kernel selects a new listener randomly, but as the side effect, it can
redistribute packets evenly for a specific case where an application
replaces listeners by generations.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-19 22:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-17  9:40 [RFC PATCH bpf-next 0/8] Socket migration for SO_REUSEPORT Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-17  9:40 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 1/8] net: Introduce net.ipv4.tcp_migrate_req Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-17  9:40 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 2/8] tcp: Keep TCP_CLOSE sockets in the reuseport group Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-17  9:40 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 3/8] tcp: Migrate TCP_ESTABLISHED/TCP_SYN_RECV sockets in accept queues Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-18 23:50   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-11-19 22:09     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima [this message]
2020-11-20  1:53       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-11-21 10:13         ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-23  0:40           ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-11-24  9:24             ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-17  9:40 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 4/8] tcp: Migrate TFO requests causing RST during TCP_SYN_RECV Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-17  9:40 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 5/8] tcp: Migrate TCP_NEW_SYN_RECV requests Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-17  9:40 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 6/8] bpf: Add cookie in sk_reuseport_md Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-19  0:11   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-11-19 22:10     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-17  9:40 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 7/8] bpf: Call bpf_run_sk_reuseport() for socket migration Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-19  1:00   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-11-19 22:13     ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-17  9:40 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 8/8] bpf: Test BPF_PROG_TYPE_SK_REUSEPORT " Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-18  9:18 ` [RFC PATCH bpf-next 0/8] Socket migration for SO_REUSEPORT David Laight
2020-11-19 22:01   ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-18 16:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2020-11-19 22:05   ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-19  1:49 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-11-19 22:17   ` Kuniyuki Iwashima
2020-11-20  2:31     ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-11-21 10:16       ` Kuniyuki Iwashima

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20201119220922.75145-1-kuniyu@amazon.co.jp \
    --to=kuniyu@amazon.co.jp \
    --cc=ast@kernel.org \
    --cc=benh@amazon.com \
    --cc=bpf@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=daniel@iogearbox.net \
    --cc=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=edumazet@google.com \
    --cc=kafai@fb.com \
    --cc=kuba@kernel.org \
    --cc=kuni1840@gmail.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).