From: Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Boris Pismenny <borispismenny@gmail.com>,
Boris Pismenny <borisp@mellanox.com>,
davem@davemloft.net, saeedm@nvidia.com, hch@lst.de,
sagi@grimberg.me, axboe@fb.com, kbusch@kernel.org,
viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, edumazet@google.com,
boris.pismenny@gmail.com, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, benishay@nvidia.com, ogerlitz@nvidia.com,
yorayz@nvidia.com, Ben Ben-Ishay <benishay@mellanox.com>,
Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
Yoray Zack <yorayz@mellanox.com>,
Boris Pismenny <borisp@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 net-next 02/15] net: Introduce direct data placement tcp offload
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 15:05:15 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201211230515.n5i2i2w23zdwnl6q@bsd-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <281b12de-7730-05a7-1187-e4f702c19cda@gmail.com>
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:59:52PM -0700, David Ahern wrote:
> On 12/11/20 11:45 AM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > Ack, these patches are not exciting (to me), so I'm wondering if there
> > is a better way. The only reason NIC would have to understand a ULP for
> > ZC is to parse out header/message lengths. There's gotta be a way to
> > pass those in header options or such...
> >
> > And, you know, if we figure something out - maybe we stand a chance
> > against having 4 different zero copy implementations (this, TCP,
> > AF_XDP, netgpu) :(
>
> AF_XDP is for userspace IP/TCP/packet handling.
>
> netgpu is fundamentally kernel stack socket with zerocopy direct to
> userspace buffers. Yes, it has more complications like the process is
> running on a GPU, but essential characteristics are header / payload
> split, a kernel stack managed socket, and dedicated H/W queues for the
> socket and those are all common to what the nvme patches are doing. So,
> can we create a common framework for those characteristics which enables
> other use cases (like a more generic Rx zerocopy)?
AF_XDP could also be viewed as a special case of netgpu.
--
Jonathan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-11 23:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-07 21:06 [PATCH v1 net-next 00/15] nvme-tcp receive offloads Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 01/15] iov_iter: Skip copy in memcpy_to_page if src==dst Boris Pismenny
2020-12-08 0:39 ` David Ahern
2020-12-08 14:30 ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 02/15] net: Introduce direct data placement tcp offload Boris Pismenny
2020-12-08 0:42 ` David Ahern
2020-12-08 14:36 ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-09 0:38 ` David Ahern
2020-12-09 8:15 ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-10 4:26 ` David Ahern
2020-12-11 2:01 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-12-11 2:43 ` David Ahern
2020-12-11 18:45 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-12-11 18:58 ` Eric Dumazet
2020-12-11 19:59 ` David Ahern
2020-12-11 23:05 ` Jonathan Lemon [this message]
2020-12-13 18:34 ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-13 18:21 ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-15 5:19 ` David Ahern
2020-12-17 19:06 ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-18 0:44 ` David Ahern
2020-12-09 0:57 ` David Ahern
2020-12-09 1:11 ` David Ahern
2020-12-09 8:28 ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-09 8:25 ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 03/15] net: Introduce crc offload for tcp ddp ulp Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 04/15] net/tls: expose get_netdev_for_sock Boris Pismenny
2020-12-09 1:06 ` David Ahern
2020-12-09 7:41 ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-10 3:39 ` David Ahern
2020-12-11 18:43 ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 05/15] nvme-tcp: Add DDP offload control path Boris Pismenny
2020-12-10 17:15 ` Shai Malin
2020-12-14 6:38 ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-15 13:33 ` Shai Malin
2020-12-17 18:51 ` Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 06/15] nvme-tcp: Add DDP data-path Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 07/15] nvme-tcp : Recalculate crc in the end of the capsule Boris Pismenny
2020-12-15 14:07 ` Shai Malin
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 08/15] nvme-tcp: Deal with netdevice DOWN events Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 09/15] net/mlx5: Header file changes for nvme-tcp offload Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 10/15] net/mlx5: Add 128B CQE for NVMEoTCP offload Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 11/15] net/mlx5e: TCP flow steering for nvme-tcp Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 12/15] net/mlx5e: NVMEoTCP DDP offload control path Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 13/15] net/mlx5e: NVMEoTCP, data-path for DDP offload Boris Pismenny
2020-12-18 0:57 ` David Ahern
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 14/15] net/mlx5e: NVMEoTCP statistics Boris Pismenny
2020-12-07 21:06 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 15/15] net/mlx5e: NVMEoTCP workaround CRC after resync Boris Pismenny
2021-01-14 1:27 ` [PATCH v1 net-next 00/15] nvme-tcp receive offloads Sagi Grimberg
2021-01-14 4:47 ` David Ahern
2021-01-14 19:21 ` Boris Pismenny
2021-01-14 19:17 ` Boris Pismenny
2021-01-14 21:07 ` Sagi Grimberg
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