From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C25C433ED for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 22:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B74861019 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 22:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S235111AbhDNWl3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Apr 2021 18:41:29 -0400 Received: from cheddar.halon.org.uk ([93.93.131.118]:39588 "EHLO cheddar.halon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230168AbhDNWl3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Apr 2021 18:41:29 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 1873 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 18:41:29 EDT Received: from wookey by cheddar.halon.org.uk with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lWnhk-00044b-Mt; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 23:09:48 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 23:09:48 +0100 From: Wookey To: Marius Gripsgard , 985893@bugs.debian.org Cc: Chris Talbot , ofono@ofono.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, debian-on-mobile-maintainers@alioth-lists.debian.net, librem-5-dev@lists.community.puri.sm, 982250@bugs.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#985893: Forking on MMSD Message-ID: <20210414220948.GL11215@mail.wookware.org> References: <051ae8ae27f5288d64ec6ef2bd9f77c06b829b52.camel@talbothome.com> <634e0debea558b90af2cebfc99518071f1d630e9.camel@talbothome.com> <9acefe05-29ab-4cb9-8fef-982eb9deb79a@ubports.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="z4rh66uIX5MfNyUL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9acefe05-29ab-4cb9-8fef-982eb9deb79a@ubports.com> Organization: Wookware User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org --z4rh66uIX5MfNyUL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2021-04-14 18:39 +0000, Marius Gripsgard wrote: > I would really like to avoid a fork, it's not worth doing dual > work. Did you ping ofono devs at irc?=A0 Also have you sent upstream > patches? If a fork is the way you want to go, you will need to > rename it as the existing packages need to follow upstream, we can't > just rip an existing packages away from upstream. Debian can package mmsd with whatever set of patches it sees fit. If the end result is ChrisT's version, with Modem Manager support, then I think that's reasonable. mmsd is not currently packaged in debian so I don't think a rename is required. Ultimately it's up to maintainers to choose which upstream is most appropriate. There used to be only one, but increasingly one gets a choice of varying degrees of active maintenance. (This can be a huge pain making life quite awkward for maintainers, and I find Debian is the only org trying to unify a diverse set of versions where a load of people have scratched their own itch and then just left it like that.) Ultimately we want the best functionality for our users, and if the old upstream has been inactive for years then using this new, maintained version of mmsd may well be the best course. Efforts should continue to either give Chris access to the original repo or officially declare it 'under new management' so that there is a canonical place for the codebase, but in the meantime it's OK for debian to have a big patch. Versioning could be tricky in some situations, but SFACT the ofono mmsd is just 0.0 so the debian version can be 0.0.something and remain compatible with a shift back to that repo at some point. Wookey --=20 Principal hats: Linaro, Debian, Wookware, ARM http://wookware.org/ --z4rh66uIX5MfNyUL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEER4nvI8Pe/wVWh5yq+4YyUahvnkcFAmB3aBcACgkQ+4YyUahv nkc1XhAAv9QOT953MAIDdjjGM4mkZaDNe7H3r4G66R+4TvGmuZADpsOvs08Sizzn 3+zXzekYZXk0eNEugoC3irBILeuDb2rHjDuBM5PZd6eUpzPXDPNE80QmCRq5vOsa +A9xpHFDYWwC8khxgSJl4fCl+YUQks9S0Q5uaxpNdo/T5GuPA6iDxSpDirR3wqrT eJ9So0swDX21QfyYnYt5Uc20ILk26QXl79YrOj744KSjdUveDgk09q0OFJisKvka tNKpIFQM7HgpyWcW3aRHJ8fMn3I8ZW9rzYNA9mwIuVRp1IbOpDfs7bVoMkjYeWb4 OwL6LKiBFKiFcnYAZrKP6LVXjdeV9V59zG17Ds/fP/xp295fQdVSoDMVtGj9q/G0 o/Bj/ZX4DN8GbLmISmcrJL60ZrHrwHN7oGPtNJu5ly4vd2EwATvH+9+ZNe5DfOoL BijZDsvA2WKl1YiWGIdf4UsQrI6c9t+MLcKHIsfbV1DrIY+icQX5jribS+7g/j38 1Q62YwrPpYfTNjGIgVLo+wSnpFZsvHcyhVExHFx/UDodO7Eae9tOIQP9sS+J0Vqo cSY7VesyfN0NsKBazQ3g/+bpwvemXS629nKD4M0Wgza0C2Y8ors2B+ZD/vSjuvTC gfV3JkLBHSnZeVZfpcJDT25GdulAYWEg+AHlk+r6oLhlRpAMRik= =4N/3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --z4rh66uIX5MfNyUL--