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From: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_optional() optional
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 22:31:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220112213121.5ruae5mxwj6t3qiy@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWsMGPiQaPS0-PJ_+Mc5VQ37YdLfbHr_aS40kB+SfW-aw@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:27:02AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> Hi Uwe,
> 
> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 9:51 AM Uwe Kleine-König
> <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 09:33:48AM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 10:20 PM Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 09:10:14PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 10:54:48PM +0300, Sergey Shtylyov wrote:
> > > > > > This patch is based on the former Andy Shevchenko's patch:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210331144526.19439-1-andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently platform_get_irq_optional() returns an error code even if IRQ
> > > > > > resource simply has not been found. It prevents the callers from being
> > > > > > error code agnostic in their error handling:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     ret = platform_get_irq_optional(...);
> > > > > >     if (ret < 0 && ret != -ENXIO)
> > > > > >             return ret; // respect deferred probe
> > > > > >     if (ret > 0)
> > > > > >             ...we get an IRQ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All other *_optional() APIs seem to return 0 or NULL in case an optional
> > > > > > resource is not available. Let's follow this good example, so that the
> > > > > > callers would look like:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >     ret = platform_get_irq_optional(...);
> > > > > >     if (ret < 0)
> > > > > >             return ret;
> > > > > >     if (ret > 0)
> > > > > >             ...we get an IRQ...
> > > > >
> > > > > The difference to gpiod_get_optional (and most other *_optional) is that
> > > > > you can use the NULL value as if it were a valid GPIO.
> > > > >
> > > > > As this isn't given with for irqs, I don't think changing the return
> > > > > value has much sense.
> > > >
> > > > We actually want platform_get_irq_optional() to look different to all
> > > > the other _optional() methods because it is not equivalent. If it
> > > > looks the same, developers will assume it is the same, and get
> > > > themselves into trouble.
> > >
> > > Developers already assume it is the same, and thus forget they have
> > > to check against -ENXIO instead of zero.

I agree that -ENXIO is unfortunate and -ENOENT would be more in line
with other functions. I assume it's insane to want to change that.

> > Is this an ack for renaming platform_get_irq_optional() to
> > platform_get_irq_silent()?
> 
> No it isn't ;-)
> 
> If an optional IRQ is not present, drivers either just ignore it (e.g.
> for devices that can have multiple interrupts or a single muxed IRQ),
> or they have to resort to polling. For the latter, fall-back handling
> is needed elsewhere in the driver.

I think irq are not suitable for such a dummy handling. For clocks or
GPIOs there are cases where just doing nothing in the absence of a
certain optional clock or GPIO is fine.

I checked a few users of platform_get_irq_optional() and I didn't find a
single one that doesn't need to differentiate the irq and the no-irq
case later. Do you know one? If you do, isn't that so exceptional that
it doesn't justify the idea of a dummy irq value? So until proven
otherwise I think platform_get_irq_optional() just isn't in the spirit
of clk_get_optional() and gpiod_get_optional() because there are no use
cases where a dummy value would be good enough. (Even if request_irq
would be a noop for a dummy irq value.)

The motivation why platform_get_irq_optional() was introduced was just
that platform_get_irq() started to emit an error message (in commit
7723f4c5ecdb8d832f049f8483beb0d1081cedf6) and the (proportional) few
drivers where the error message was bad needed a variant that doesn't
emit the error message. Look at
31a8d8fa84c51d3ab00bf059158d5de6178cf890, the motivation to use
platform_get_irq_optional() wasn't that it simplifies handling in the
driver, but that it doesn't emit an error message. Or
8f5783ad9eb83747471f61f94dbe209fb9fb8a7d, or
2fd276c3ee4bd42eb034f8954964a5ae74187c6b, or
55cc33fab5ac9f7e2a97aa7c564e8b35355886d5. Just look at the output of git
log -Splatform_get_irq_optional to find some more.

That convinces me, that platform_get_irq_optional() is a bad name. The
only difference to platform_get_irq is that it's silent. And returning
a dummy irq value (which would make it aligned with the other _optional
functions) isn't possible.

> To me it sounds much more logical for the driver to check if an
> optional irq is non-zero (available) or zero (not available), than to
> sprinkle around checks for -ENXIO. In addition, you have to remember
> that this one returns -ENXIO, while other APIs use -ENOENT or -ENOSYS
> (or some other error code) to indicate absence. I thought not having
> to care about the actual error code was the main reason behind the
> introduction of the *_optional() APIs.

No, the main benefit of gpiod_get_optional() (and clk_get_optional()) is
that you can handle an absent GPIO (or clk) as if it were available.

Best regards
Uwe

-- 
Pengutronix e.K.                           | Uwe Kleine-König            |
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-12 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20220110195449.12448-1-s.shtylyov@omp.ru>
2022-01-10 19:54 ` [PATCH 1/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_optional() optional Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-10 20:10   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-10 21:07     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-10 21:44       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-10 21:18     ` Andrew Lunn
2022-01-12  8:33       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-12  8:50         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-12 10:27           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-12 12:27             ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-12 13:38             ` Andrew Lunn
2022-01-12 13:51               ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-12 13:54               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-12 14:41                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-01-12 15:05                   ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-12 15:13                     ` Hans de Goede
2022-01-12 15:48                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-01-12 16:21                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-12 21:31             ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
2022-01-12 21:45               ` Mark Brown
2022-01-13 11:08                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-13 14:45                   ` Mark Brown
2022-01-13 19:43                     ` [PATCH] driver core: platform: Rename platform_get_irq_optional() to platform_get_irq_silent() Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-13 20:17                       ` Mark Brown
2022-01-13 20:57                         ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-13 22:43                           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-14  9:58                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-15 15:21                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-15 21:06                                 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-14 11:34                           ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-13 20:31                       ` Guenter Roeck
2022-01-13 21:42                       ` Florian Fainelli
2022-01-13 23:06                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-14 17:55                         ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-15 13:55                           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 18:36                             ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-19 19:44                               ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 18:40                             ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-14  6:57                       ` Peter Korsgaard
2022-01-14 13:04                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-15 15:45                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 18:51                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-19 19:47                             ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 20:55                               ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-20  7:57                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-24 15:01                               ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-24 21:02                                 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-25  8:25                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-25 12:56                                     ` Matthias Schiffer
2022-01-25 14:01                                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-14 19:45                       ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-14 20:29                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-15 13:08                           ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 18:52                         ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-13 20:35                 ` [PATCH 1/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_optional() optional Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-14  9:25                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-14  9:39                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-14 19:14                     ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-14 20:22                       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-15 20:22                         ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-17  8:41                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17  9:24                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-17 10:35                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17 11:49                                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-17 13:08                                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-17 17:06                                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-18  8:25                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18  9:09                                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-18  9:37                                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 12:08                                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-18 12:49                                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-18 14:29                                                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 16:12                                                   ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 18:29                                                     ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-20 11:27                                     ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-16 18:15                         ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-17  8:47                           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-18 20:21                             ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-18 22:26                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 15:34                                 ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 18:58                             ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-19 19:49                               ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-14 18:46                   ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-15 18:36   ` [PATCH 1/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_optional() optional (summary) Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-16 14:19     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-18  9:18       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-18  9:32         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-01-19 10:56         ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 11:33           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 11:42             ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 19:06     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-01-17 11:57   ` [PATCH 1/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_optional() optional Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-19 15:02     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-01-19 15:50       ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-01-10 19:54 ` [PATCH 2/2] platform: make platform_get_irq_byname_optional() optional Sergey Shtylyov

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