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From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
Cc: 'Marek Majkowski' <marek@cloudflare.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	network dev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-team <kernel-team@cloudflare.com>
Subject: Re: epoll_wait() performance
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:50:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <26e9b84bef24d46da9504aae2ca444d0d258c621.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2f1635d9300a4bec8a0422e9e9518751@AcuMS.aculab.com>

Hi,

Thanks for the additional details.

On Wed, 2019-11-27 at 17:30 +0000, David Laight wrote:
> From: Paolo Abeni
> > Sent: 27 November 2019 16:27
> ...
> > @David: If I read your message correctly, the pkt rate you are dealing
> > with is quite low... are we talking about tput or latency? I guess
> > latency could be measurably higher with recvmmsg() in respect to other
> > syscall. How do you measure the releative performances of recvmmsg()
> > and recv() ? with micro-benchmark/rdtsc()? Am I right that you are
> > usually getting a single packet per recvmmsg() call?
> 
> The packet rate per socket is low, typically one packet every 20ms.
> This is RTP, so telephony audio.
> However we have a lot of audio channels and hence a lot of sockets.
> So there are can be 1000s of sockets we need to receive the data from.
> The test system I'm using has 16 E1 TDM links each of which can handle
> 31 audio channels.
> Forwarding all these to/from RTP (one of the things it might do) is 496
> audio channels - so 496 RTP sockets and 496 RTCP ones.
> Although the test I'm doing is pure RTP and doesn't use TDM.

Oks, I think this is not exactly the preferred recvmmsg() use case ;)

> What I'm measuring is the total time taken to receive all the packets
> (on all the sockets) that are available to be read every 10ms.
> So poll + recv + add_to_queue.
> (The data processing is done by other threads.)
> I use the time difference (actually CLOCK_MONOTONIC - from rdtsc)
> to generate a 64 entry (self scaling) histogram of the elapsed times.
> Then look for the histograms peak value.
> (I need to work on the max value, but that is a different (more important!) problem.)
> Depending on the poll/recv method used this takes 1.5 to 2ms
> in each 10ms period.
> (It is faster if I run the cpu at full speed, but it usually idles along
> at 800MHz.)
> 
> If I use recvmmsg() I only expect to see one packet because there
> is (almost always) only one packet on each socket every 20ms.
> However there might be more than one, and if there is they
> all need to be read (well at least 2 of them) in that block of receives.

I would wild guess that recvmmsg() would be faster than 2 recv() when
there are exactly 2 pkts to read and the user-space provides exactly 2
msg entries, but likely non very relevant for the overall scenario.

Sorry, I don't have any good suggestion here.

Cheers,

Paolo


      parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-27 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-22 11:17 epoll_wait() performance David Laight
2019-11-27  9:50 ` Marek Majkowski
2019-11-27 10:39   ` David Laight
2019-11-27 15:48     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2019-11-27 16:04       ` David Laight
2019-11-27 19:48         ` Willem de Bruijn
2019-11-28 16:25           ` David Laight
2019-11-28 11:12         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2019-11-28 16:37           ` David Laight
2019-11-28 16:52             ` Willy Tarreau
2019-12-19  7:57             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2019-11-27 16:26       ` Paolo Abeni
2019-11-27 17:30         ` David Laight
2019-11-27 17:46           ` Eric Dumazet
2019-11-28 10:17             ` David Laight
2019-11-30  1:07               ` Eric Dumazet
2019-11-30 13:29                 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2019-12-02 12:24                   ` David Laight
2019-12-02 16:47                     ` Willem de Bruijn
2019-11-27 17:50           ` Paolo Abeni [this message]

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