From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.1 required=3.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,INCLUDES_PATCH, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SIGNED_OFF_BY,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 613BBC169C4 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 21:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258602175B for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 21:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=arista.com header.i=@arista.com header.b="CX8X1onQ" Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726809AbfBFVss (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Feb 2019 16:48:48 -0500 Received: from mx.aristanetworks.com ([162.210.129.12]:47081 "EHLO prod-mx.aristanetworks.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725983AbfBFVsq (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Feb 2019 16:48:46 -0500 Received: from prod-mx.aristanetworks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prod-mx.aristanetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F44BE1D; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 13:48:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=arista.com; s=Arista-A; t=1549489725; bh=RxB++ljs2LsVOZnrBBZ4Z1WKVZyGjW+ERKgvlQHLUXA=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=CX8X1onQ3QbjwhwK8IbTpcJa5DZ0ymQnueawa8ONu7fG5hiyh0R65wFWgPJoH7l/g arjBkpV62OYBhc0ajvBlYz8SfhtyhkDu+ccmhln8mRzGaVLcx98u6z0o8ZooK+U/Hf FhugF5r0o47UBLBXqQrCrJb46hY4RjKInwnMvA03GWq0KC3ErgqOt3xZygzNjwpsHv WCaRxP1wSxWFIF46AIa5fgmMA2xOKWNwoD9DO+b8n3sX0wtdmV+4FWoylqzTZcXXS2 8Du7WQUy+YtsVh0955vrPRrFOD7itltFD5UieSjnHc+UOQbvZuUWdxFJbZJ9bpTdQP B/fsC1rU7uqpw== Received: from [10.80.4.127] (unknown [10.80.4.127]) by prod-mx.aristanetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF113E0F; Wed, 6 Feb 2019 13:48:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [PATCH net] sctp: make sctp_setsockopt_events() less strict about the option length To: Neil Horman Cc: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner , netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, vyasevich@gmail.com, lucien.xin@gmail.com References: <20190206201430.18830-1-julien@arista.com> <20190206203754.GC13621@localhost.localdomain> <20190206210723.GD13621@localhost.localdomain> <274c48cb-7590-682b-f4de-f5c4ce2d2144@arista.com> <20190206213948.GE16887@hmswarspite.think-freely.org> From: Julien Gomes Message-ID: <271b88ca-ae7c-7d07-330a-242e8ba7322d@arista.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 13:48:44 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20190206213948.GE16887@hmswarspite.think-freely.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US-large Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org On 2/6/19 1:39 PM, Neil Horman wrote: > On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 01:26:55PM -0800, Julien Gomes wrote: >> >> >> On 2/6/19 1:07 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 12:48:38PM -0800, Julien Gomes wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/6/19 12:37 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote: >>>>> On Wed, Feb 06, 2019 at 12:14:30PM -0800, Julien Gomes wrote: >>>>>> Make sctp_setsockopt_events() able to accept sctp_event_subscribe >>>>>> structures longer than the current definitions. >>>>>> >>>>>> This should prevent unjustified setsockopt() failures due to struct >>>>>> sctp_event_subscribe extensions (as in 4.11 and 4.12) when using >>>>>> binaries that should be compatible, but were built with later kernel >>>>>> uapi headers. >>>>> >>>>> Not sure if we support backwards compatibility like this? >>>>> >>>>> My issue with this change is that by doing this, application will have >>>>> no clue if the new bits were ignored or not and it may think that an >>>>> event is enabled while it is not. >>>>> >>>>> A workaround would be to do a getsockopt and check the size that was >>>>> returned. But then, it might as well use the right struct here in the >>>>> first place. >>>>> >>>>> I'm seeing current implementation as an implicitly versioned argument: >>>>> it will always accept setsockopt calls with an old struct (v4.11 or >>>>> v4.12), but if the user tries to use v3 on a v1-only system, it will >>>>> be rejected. Pretty much like using a newer setsockopt on an old >>>>> system. >>>> >>>> With the current implementation, given sources that say are supposed to >>>> run on a 4.9 kernel (no use of any newer field added in 4.11 or 4.12), >>>> we can't rebuild the exact same sources on a 4.19 kernel and still run >>>> them on 4.9 without messing with structures re-definition. >>> >>> Maybe what we want(ed) here then is explicit versioning, to have the 3 >>> definitions available. Then the application is able to use, say struct >>> sctp_event_subscribe, and be happy with it, while there is struct >>> sctp_event_subscribe_v2 and struct sctp_event_subscribe_v3 there too. >>> >>> But it's too late for that now because that would break applications >>> already using the new fields in sctp_event_subscribe. >> >> Right. >> >>> >>>> >>>> I understand your point, but this still looks like a sort of uapi >>>> breakage to me. >>> >>> Not disagreeing. I really just don't know how supported that is. >>> Willing to know so I can pay more attention to this on future changes. >>> >>> Btw, is this the only occurrence? >> >> Can't really say, this is one I witnessed, I haven't really looked for >> others. >> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I also had another way to work-around this in mind, by copying optlen >>>> bytes and checking that any additional field (not included in the >>>> "current" kernel structure definition) is not set, returning EINVAL in >>>> such case to keep a similar to current behavior. >>>> The issue with this is that I didn't find a suitable (ie not totally >>>> arbitrary such as "twice the existing structure size") upper limit to >>>> optlen. >>> >>> Seems interesting. Why would it need that upper limit to optlen? >>> >>> Say struct v1 had 4 bytes, v3 now had 12. The user supplies 12 bytes >>> to the kernel that only knows about 4 bytes. It can check that (12-4) >>> bytes in the end, make sure no bit is on and use only the first 4. >>> >>> The fact that it was 12 or 200 shouldn't matter, should it? As long as >>> the (200-4) bytes are 0'ed, only the first 4 will be used and it >>> should be ok, otherwise EINVAL. No need to know how big the current >>> current actually is because it wouldn't be validating that here: just >>> that it can safely use the first 4 bytes. >> >> The upper limit concern is more regarding the call to copy_from_user >> with an unrestricted/unchecked value. > Copy_from_user should be safe to copy an arbitrary amount, the only restriction > is that optlen can't exceed the size of the buffer receiving the data in the > kernel. From that standpoint your patch is safe. However, that exposes the > problem of checking any tail data on the userspace buffer. That is to say, if > you want to ensure that any extra data that gets sent from userspace isn't > 'set', you would have to copy that extra data in consumable chunks and check > them individaully, and that screams DOS to me (i.e. imagine a user passing in a > 4GB buffer, and having to wait for the kernel to copy each X sized chunk, > looking for non-zero values). There probably is a decent compromise to find between "not accepting a single additional byte" and accepting several GB. For example how likely is it that the growth of this structure make it go over a page? I would hope not at all. By choosing a large but decent high limit, I think we can find a future-compatible compromise that doesn't rely on a preliminary getsockopt() just for structure trucation decision... > >> I am not sure of how much of a risk/how exploitable this could be, >> that's why I cautiously wanted to limit it in the first place just in case. >> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Julien Gomes >>>>>> --- >>>>>> net/sctp/socket.c | 2 +- >>>>>> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) >>>>>> >>>>>> diff --git a/net/sctp/socket.c b/net/sctp/socket.c >>>>>> index 9644bdc8e85c..f9717e2789da 100644 >>>>>> --- a/net/sctp/socket.c >>>>>> +++ b/net/sctp/socket.c >>>>>> @@ -2311,7 +2311,7 @@ static int sctp_setsockopt_events(struct sock *sk, char __user *optval, >>>>>> int i; >>>>>> >>>>>> if (optlen > sizeof(struct sctp_event_subscribe)) >>>>>> - return -EINVAL; >>>>>> + optlen = sizeof(struct sctp_event_subscribe); >>>>>> >>>>>> if (copy_from_user(&subscribe, optval, optlen)) >>>>>> return -EFAULT; >>>>>> -- >>>>>> 2.20.1 >>>>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> Julien Gomes >> -- Julien Gomes