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From: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
To: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@gmail.com>,
	"Alexander Duyck" <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	"David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@intel.com>,
	"Karlsson, Magnus" <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
	ast@kernel.org, "Daniel Borkmann" <borkmann@iogearbox.net>,
	"Or Gerlitz" <gerlitz.or@gmail.com>,
	"Jeff Kirsher" <jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: AF_XDP. Was: [net-next 00/12][pull request] Intel Wired LAN Driver Updates 2018-06-04
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 16:11:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <292cb50a-7b77-9088-9159-4969e887d022@iogearbox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ+HfNhBZvARUwrr838Dc6eZZZ0LjkWjaGtAHuO-5UjHXwfSMQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/05/2018 10:44 AM, Björn Töpel wrote:
> Den tis 5 juni 2018 kl 03:46 skrev Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>:
>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 4:32 PM, Alexei Starovoitov
>> <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 03:02:31PM -0700, Alexander Duyck wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 2:27 PM, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
>>>>> From: Or Gerlitz <gerlitz.or@gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 00:11:35 +0300
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to make sure, is the AF_XDP ZC (Zero Copy) UAPI going to be
>>>>>> merged for this window -- AFAIU from [1], it's still under
>>>>>> examination/development/research for non Intel HWs, am I correct or
>>>>>> this is going to get in now?
>>>>>
>>>>> All of the pending AF_XDP changes will be merged this merge window.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Intel folks need to review things as fast as possible because
>>>>> I pretty much refuse to revert the series or disable it in Kconfig at
>>>>> this point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> My understanding of things is that the current AF_XDP patches were
>>>> going to be updated to have more of a model agnostic API such that
>>>> they would work for either the "typewriter" mode or the descriptor
>>>> ring based approach. The current plan was to have the zero copy
>>>> patches be a follow-on after the vendor agnostic API bits in the
>>>> descriptors and such had been sorted out. I believe you guys have the
>>>> descriptor fixes already right?
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion the i40e code isn't mature enough yet to really go into
>>>> anything other than maybe net-next in a couple weeks. We are going to
>>>> need a while to get adequate testing in order to flush out all the
>>>> bugs and performance regressions we are likely to see coming out of
>>>> this change.
>>>
>>> I think the work everyone did in this release cycle increased my confidence
>>> that the way descriptors are defined and the rest of uapi are stable enough
>>> and i40e zero copy bits can land in the next release without uapi changes.
>>> In that sense even if we merge i40e parts now, the other nic vendors
>>> will be in the same situation and may find things that they would like
>>> to improve in uapi.
>>> So I propose we merge the first 7 patches of the last series now and
>>> let 3 remaining i40e patches go via intel trees for the next release.
>>> In the mean time other NIC vendors should start actively working
>>> on AF_XDP support as well.
>>> If somehow uapi would need tweaks, we can still do minor adjustments
>>> since 4.18 won't be released for ~10 weeks.
>>
>> That works for me. Actually I think patch 11 can probably be included
>> as well since that is just sample code and could probably be used by
>> whatever drivers end up implementing this.
> 
> The approach suggested by Alexei and Alex sounds good to us. Alex's
> review items are very much valid, and require more time to address.
> Therefore addressing i40e in the next merge windows sounds like a
> great idea.
> 
> As Alex suggests, including patch 11 together with the first seven makes sense.

Ok with it as well, and I've pushed just that, thanks everyone!

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-05 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-04 17:56 [net-next 00/12][pull request] Intel Wired LAN Driver Updates 2018-06-04 Jeff Kirsher
2018-06-04 17:56 ` [net-next 01/12] e1000e: Ignore TSYNCRXCTL when getting I219 clock attributes Jeff Kirsher
2018-06-04 17:56 ` [net-next 02/12] Documentation: e100: Update the Intel 10/100 driver doc Jeff Kirsher
2018-06-04 17:56 ` [net-next 03/12] Documentation: e1000: Update kernel documentation Jeff Kirsher
2018-06-04 17:56 ` [net-next 04/12] igb: Clear TSICR interrupts together with ICR Jeff Kirsher
2018-06-04 17:56 ` [net-next 05/12] igb: Wait 10ms just once after TX queues reset Jeff Kirsher
2018-06-04 17:56 ` [net-next 06/12] ixgbevf: Fix coexistence of malicious driver detection with XDP Jeff Kirsher
2018-06-04 17:56 ` [net-next 07/12] ixgbevf: fix possible race in the reset subtask Jeff Kirsher
2018-06-04 17:56 ` [net-next 08/12] ixgbe: introduce a helper to simplify code Jeff Kirsher
2018-06-04 17:56 ` [net-next 09/12] bpf, i40e: add meta data support Jeff Kirsher
2018-06-04 17:56 ` [net-next 10/12] ixgbe: fix possible race in reset subtask Jeff Kirsher
2018-06-04 17:56 ` [net-next 11/12] ixgbe: check ipsec ip addr against mgmt filters Jeff Kirsher
2018-06-04 17:56 ` [net-next 12/12] ixgbe: fix broken ipsec Rx with proper cast on spi Jeff Kirsher
2018-06-04 20:27 ` [net-next 00/12][pull request] Intel Wired LAN Driver Updates 2018-06-04 Or Gerlitz
2018-06-04 20:30   ` David Miller
2018-06-04 21:11     ` Or Gerlitz
2018-06-04 21:27       ` David Miller
2018-06-04 22:02         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-06-04 23:32           ` AF_XDP. Was: " Alexei Starovoitov
2018-06-05  1:45             ` Alexander Duyck
2018-06-05  8:44               ` Björn Töpel
2018-06-05 14:11                 ` Daniel Borkmann [this message]
2018-06-05  1:09 ` David Miller

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