From: Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>, Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@fb.com>,
bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v1 03/19] bpf: add bpf_map iterator
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:14:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <352a43d5-dd62-adeb-9522-46933ace8c18@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2be3cd4a-cf55-2eeb-c33b-a25135defceb@fb.com>
On 4/29/20 8:34 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On 4/28/20 11:44 PM, Yonghong Song wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 4/28/20 11:40 PM, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:30 PM Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 4/28/20 11:20 PM, Yonghong Song wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/28/20 11:08 PM, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:10 PM Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/28/20 7:44 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/28/20 6:15 PM, Yonghong Song wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/28/20 5:48 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/28/20 5:37 PM, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> + prog = bpf_iter_get_prog(seq, sizeof(struct
>>>>>>>>>>>> bpf_iter_seq_map_info),
>>>>>>>>>>>> + &meta.session_id, &meta.seq_num,
>>>>>>>>>>>> + v == (void *)0);
>>>>>>>>>>> From looking at seq_file.c, when will show() be called
>>>>>>>>>>> with "v ==
>>>>>>>>>>> NULL"?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that v == NULL here and the whole verifier change just to allow
>>>>>>>>>> NULL...
>>>>>>>>>> may be use seq_num as an indicator of the last elem instead?
>>>>>>>>>> Like seq_num with upper bit set to indicate that it's last?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We could. But then verifier won't have an easy way to verify that.
>>>>>>>>> For example, the above is expected:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> int prog(struct bpf_map *map, u64 seq_num) {
>>>>>>>>> if (seq_num >> 63)
>>>>>>>>> return 0;
>>>>>>>>> ... map->id ...
>>>>>>>>> ... map->user_cnt ...
>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But if user writes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> int prog(struct bpf_map *map, u64 seq_num) {
>>>>>>>>> ... map->id ...
>>>>>>>>> ... map->user_cnt ...
>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> verifier won't be easy to conclude inproper map pointer tracing
>>>>>>>>> here and in the above map->id, map->user_cnt will cause
>>>>>>>>> exceptions and they will silently get value 0.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I mean always pass valid object pointer into the prog.
>>>>>>>> In above case 'map' will always be valid.
>>>>>>>> Consider prog that iterating all map elements.
>>>>>>>> It's weird that the prog would always need to do
>>>>>>>> if (map == 0)
>>>>>>>> goto out;
>>>>>>>> even if it doesn't care about finding last.
>>>>>>>> All progs would have to have such extra 'if'.
>>>>>>>> If we always pass valid object than there is no need
>>>>>>>> for such extra checks inside the prog.
>>>>>>>> First and last element can be indicated via seq_num
>>>>>>>> or via another flag or via helper call like is_this_last_elem()
>>>>>>>> or something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, I see what you mean now. Basically this means
>>>>>>> seq_ops->next() should try to get/maintain next two elements,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about the case when there are no elements to iterate to begin
>>>>>> with? In that case, we still need to call bpf_prog for (empty)
>>>>>> post-aggregation, but we have no valid element... For bpf_map
>>>>>> iteration we could have fake empty bpf_map that would be passed, but
>>>>>> I'm not sure it's applicable for any time of object (e.g., having a
>>>>>> fake task_struct is probably quite a bit more problematic?)...
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, yes, thanks for reminding me of this. I put a call to
>>>>> bpf_prog in seq_ops->stop() especially to handle no object
>>>>> case. In that case, seq_ops->start() will return NULL,
>>>>> seq_ops->next() won't be called, and then seq_ops->stop()
>>>>> is called. My earlier attempt tries to hook with next()
>>>>> and then find it not working in all cases.
>>>>
>>>> wait a sec. seq_ops->stop() is not the end.
>>>> With lseek of seq_file it can be called multiple times.
>>
>> Yes, I have taken care of this. when the object is NULL,
>> bpf program will be called. When the object is NULL again,
>> it won't be called. The private data remembers it has
>> been called with NULL.
>
> Even without lseek stop() will be called multiple times.
> If I read seq_file.c correctly it will be called before
> every copy_to_user(). Which means that for a lot of text
> (or if read() is done with small buffer) there will be
> plenty of start,show,show,stop sequences.
That is true, this may cause revisit the same object if the object
still exists return start() called again. I followed similar
practice with ipv6_route(), trying to looking up the same
object at start() and only advanced right before next().
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-29 18:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-27 20:12 [PATCH bpf-next v1 00/19] bpf: implement bpf iterator for kernel data Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 01/19] net: refactor net assignment for seq_net_private structure Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 5:38 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 02/19] bpf: implement an interface to register bpf_iter targets Yonghong Song
2020-04-28 16:20 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-28 16:50 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 03/19] bpf: add bpf_map iterator Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 0:37 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29 0:48 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-29 1:15 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 2:44 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-29 5:09 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 6:08 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29 6:20 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 6:30 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-29 6:40 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29 6:44 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 15:34 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-29 18:14 ` Yonghong Song [this message]
2020-04-29 19:19 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29 20:15 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-30 3:06 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-30 4:01 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 6:34 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29 6:51 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 19:25 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29 1:02 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 6:04 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 04/19] bpf: allow loading of a bpf_iter program Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 0:54 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29 1:27 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 05/19] bpf: support bpf tracing/iter programs for BPF_LINK_CREATE Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 1:17 ` [Potential Spoof] " Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29 6:25 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 06/19] bpf: support bpf tracing/iter programs for BPF_LINK_UPDATE Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 1:32 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29 5:04 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 5:58 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29 6:32 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29 6:41 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 07/19] bpf: create anonymous bpf iterator Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 5:39 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29 6:56 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29 7:06 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 18:16 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29 18:46 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29 19:20 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 20:50 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29 20:54 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 19:39 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 08/19] bpf: create file " Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 20:40 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-30 18:02 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 09/19] bpf: add PTR_TO_BTF_ID_OR_NULL support Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 20:46 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29 20:51 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 10/19] bpf: add netlink and ipv6_route targets Yonghong Song
2020-04-28 19:49 ` kbuild test robot
2020-04-28 19:50 ` [RFC PATCH] bpf: __bpf_iter__netlink() can be static kbuild test robot
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 11/19] bpf: add task and task/file targets Yonghong Song
2020-04-30 2:08 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-01 17:23 ` Yonghong Song
2020-05-01 19:01 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 12/19] bpf: add bpf_seq_printf and bpf_seq_write helpers Yonghong Song
2020-04-28 6:02 ` kbuild test robot
2020-04-28 16:35 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-30 20:06 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 13/19] bpf: handle spilled PTR_TO_BTF_ID properly when checking stack_boundary Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 14/19] bpf: support variable length array in tracing programs Yonghong Song
2020-04-30 20:04 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 15/19] tools/libbpf: add bpf_iter support Yonghong Song
2020-04-30 1:41 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-02 7:17 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 16/19] tools/bpftool: add bpf_iter support for bptool Yonghong Song
2020-04-28 9:27 ` Quentin Monnet
2020-04-28 17:35 ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 8:37 ` Quentin Monnet
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 17/19] tools/bpf: selftests: add iterator programs for ipv6_route and netlink Yonghong Song
2020-04-30 2:12 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 18/19] tools/bpf: selftests: add iter progs for bpf_map/task/task_file Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 19/19] tools/bpf: selftests: add bpf_iter selftests Yonghong Song
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