netdev.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>, Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@fb.com>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v1 03/19] bpf: add bpf_map iterator
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 11:14:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <352a43d5-dd62-adeb-9522-46933ace8c18@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2be3cd4a-cf55-2eeb-c33b-a25135defceb@fb.com>



On 4/29/20 8:34 AM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On 4/28/20 11:44 PM, Yonghong Song wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 4/28/20 11:40 PM, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:30 PM Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 4/28/20 11:20 PM, Yonghong Song wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/28/20 11:08 PM, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:10 PM Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/28/20 7:44 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 4/28/20 6:15 PM, Yonghong Song wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/28/20 5:48 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/28/20 5:37 PM, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> +    prog = bpf_iter_get_prog(seq, sizeof(struct
>>>>>>>>>>>> bpf_iter_seq_map_info),
>>>>>>>>>>>> +                 &meta.session_id, &meta.seq_num,
>>>>>>>>>>>> +                 v == (void *)0);
>>>>>>>>>>>    From looking at seq_file.c, when will show() be called 
>>>>>>>>>>> with "v ==
>>>>>>>>>>> NULL"?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that v == NULL here and the whole verifier change just to allow
>>>>>>>>>> NULL...
>>>>>>>>>> may be use seq_num as an indicator of the last elem instead?
>>>>>>>>>> Like seq_num with upper bit set to indicate that it's last?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We could. But then verifier won't have an easy way to verify that.
>>>>>>>>> For example, the above is expected:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         int prog(struct bpf_map *map, u64 seq_num) {
>>>>>>>>>            if (seq_num >> 63)
>>>>>>>>>              return 0;
>>>>>>>>>            ... map->id ...
>>>>>>>>>            ... map->user_cnt ...
>>>>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But if user writes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>         int prog(struct bpf_map *map, u64 seq_num) {
>>>>>>>>>             ... map->id ...
>>>>>>>>>             ... map->user_cnt ...
>>>>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> verifier won't be easy to conclude inproper map pointer tracing
>>>>>>>>> here and in the above map->id, map->user_cnt will cause
>>>>>>>>> exceptions and they will silently get value 0.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I mean always pass valid object pointer into the prog.
>>>>>>>> In above case 'map' will always be valid.
>>>>>>>> Consider prog that iterating all map elements.
>>>>>>>> It's weird that the prog would always need to do
>>>>>>>> if (map == 0)
>>>>>>>>      goto out;
>>>>>>>> even if it doesn't care about finding last.
>>>>>>>> All progs would have to have such extra 'if'.
>>>>>>>> If we always pass valid object than there is no need
>>>>>>>> for such extra checks inside the prog.
>>>>>>>> First and last element can be indicated via seq_num
>>>>>>>> or via another flag or via helper call like is_this_last_elem()
>>>>>>>> or something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay, I see what you mean now. Basically this means
>>>>>>> seq_ops->next() should try to get/maintain next two elements,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about the case when there are no elements to iterate to begin
>>>>>> with? In that case, we still need to call bpf_prog for (empty)
>>>>>> post-aggregation, but we have no valid element... For bpf_map
>>>>>> iteration we could have fake empty bpf_map that would be passed, but
>>>>>> I'm not sure it's applicable for any time of object (e.g., having a
>>>>>> fake task_struct is probably quite a bit more problematic?)...
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, yes, thanks for reminding me of this. I put a call to
>>>>> bpf_prog in seq_ops->stop() especially to handle no object
>>>>> case. In that case, seq_ops->start() will return NULL,
>>>>> seq_ops->next() won't be called, and then seq_ops->stop()
>>>>> is called. My earlier attempt tries to hook with next()
>>>>> and then find it not working in all cases.
>>>>
>>>> wait a sec. seq_ops->stop() is not the end.
>>>> With lseek of seq_file it can be called multiple times.
>>
>> Yes, I have taken care of this. when the object is NULL,
>> bpf program will be called. When the object is NULL again,
>> it won't be called. The private data remembers it has
>> been called with NULL.
> 
> Even without lseek stop() will be called multiple times.
> If I read seq_file.c correctly it will be called before
> every copy_to_user(). Which means that for a lot of text
> (or if read() is done with small buffer) there will be
> plenty of start,show,show,stop sequences.

That is true, this may cause revisit the same object if the object
still exists return start() called again. I followed similar
practice with ipv6_route(), trying to looking up the same
object at start() and only advanced right before next().

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-29 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-27 20:12 [PATCH bpf-next v1 00/19] bpf: implement bpf iterator for kernel data Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 01/19] net: refactor net assignment for seq_net_private structure Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  5:38   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 02/19] bpf: implement an interface to register bpf_iter targets Yonghong Song
2020-04-28 16:20   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-28 16:50     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 03/19] bpf: add bpf_map iterator Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  0:37   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29  0:48     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-29  1:15       ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  2:44         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-29  5:09           ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  6:08             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29  6:20               ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  6:30                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-29  6:40                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29  6:44                     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 15:34                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-29 18:14                         ` Yonghong Song [this message]
2020-04-29 19:19                         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29 20:15                           ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-30  3:06                             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-30  4:01                               ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  6:34                 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29  6:51                   ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 19:25                     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29  1:02     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  6:04   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 04/19] bpf: allow loading of a bpf_iter program Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  0:54   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29  1:27     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 05/19] bpf: support bpf tracing/iter programs for BPF_LINK_CREATE Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  1:17   ` [Potential Spoof] " Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29  6:25   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 06/19] bpf: support bpf tracing/iter programs for BPF_LINK_UPDATE Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  1:32   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29  5:04     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  5:58       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29  6:32         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29  6:41           ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 07/19] bpf: create anonymous bpf iterator Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  5:39   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29  6:56   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29  7:06     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 18:16       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29 18:46         ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29 19:20           ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 20:50             ` Martin KaFai Lau
2020-04-29 20:54               ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 19:39   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 08/19] bpf: create file " Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 20:40   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-30 18:02     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 09/19] bpf: add PTR_TO_BTF_ID_OR_NULL support Yonghong Song
2020-04-29 20:46   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-29 20:51     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 10/19] bpf: add netlink and ipv6_route targets Yonghong Song
2020-04-28 19:49   ` kbuild test robot
2020-04-28 19:50   ` [RFC PATCH] bpf: __bpf_iter__netlink() can be static kbuild test robot
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 11/19] bpf: add task and task/file targets Yonghong Song
2020-04-30  2:08   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-01 17:23     ` Yonghong Song
2020-05-01 19:01       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 12/19] bpf: add bpf_seq_printf and bpf_seq_write helpers Yonghong Song
2020-04-28  6:02   ` kbuild test robot
2020-04-28 16:35     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-30 20:06       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 13/19] bpf: handle spilled PTR_TO_BTF_ID properly when checking stack_boundary Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 14/19] bpf: support variable length array in tracing programs Yonghong Song
2020-04-30 20:04   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 15/19] tools/libbpf: add bpf_iter support Yonghong Song
2020-04-30  1:41   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-05-02  7:17     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 16/19] tools/bpftool: add bpf_iter support for bptool Yonghong Song
2020-04-28  9:27   ` Quentin Monnet
2020-04-28 17:35     ` Yonghong Song
2020-04-29  8:37       ` Quentin Monnet
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 17/19] tools/bpf: selftests: add iterator programs for ipv6_route and netlink Yonghong Song
2020-04-30  2:12   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 18/19] tools/bpf: selftests: add iter progs for bpf_map/task/task_file Yonghong Song
2020-04-27 20:12 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 19/19] tools/bpf: selftests: add bpf_iter selftests Yonghong Song

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=352a43d5-dd62-adeb-9522-46933ace8c18@fb.com \
    --to=yhs@fb.com \
    --cc=andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com \
    --cc=andriin@fb.com \
    --cc=ast@fb.com \
    --cc=bpf@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=daniel@iogearbox.net \
    --cc=kafai@fb.com \
    --cc=kernel-team@fb.com \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).