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From: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/5] net: phy: improve and simplify phylib state machine
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 21:05:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5c2d1fba-0c94-210f-0d9b-e1d8f70fbee0@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181107194816.GC9599@lunn.ch>

On 07.11.2018 20:48, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 07, 2018 at 08:41:52PM +0100, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
>> This patch series is based on two axioms:
>>
>> - During autoneg a PHY always reports the link being down
> 
> Hi Heiner
> 
> I think that is a risky assumption to make.
> 
I wasn't sure initially too (found no clear rule in 802.3 clause 22)
and therefore asked around. Florian agrees to the assumption,
see here: https://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg519242.html

If a PHY reports the link as up then every user would assume that
data can be transferred. But that's not the case during aneg.
Therefore reporting the link as up during aneg wouldn't make sense.

> What happens if this assumption is incorrect?
> 
Then we have to flush this patch series down the drain ;)
At least I would have to check in detail which parts need to be
changed. I clearly mention the assumptions so that every
reviewer can check whether he agrees.

>      Andrew
> 
Heiner

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-08  5:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-07 19:41 [PATCH net-next 0/5] net: phy: improve and simplify phylib state machine Heiner Kallweit
2018-11-07 19:43 ` [PATCH net-next 1/5] net: phy: remove useless check in state machine case PHY_NOLINK Heiner Kallweit
2018-11-07 19:44 ` [PATCH net-next 2/5] net: phy: remove useless check in state machine case PHY_RESUMING Heiner Kallweit
2018-11-07 19:45 ` [PATCH net-next 3/5] net: phy: add phy_check_link_status Heiner Kallweit
2018-11-07 19:46 ` [PATCH net-next 4/5] net: phy: remove state PHY_AN Heiner Kallweit
2018-11-07 19:47 ` [PATCH net-next 5/5] net: phy: use phy_check_link_status in more places in the state machine Heiner Kallweit
2018-11-07 19:48 ` [PATCH net-next 0/5] net: phy: improve and simplify phylib " Andrew Lunn
2018-11-07 20:05   ` Heiner Kallweit [this message]
2018-11-07 20:21     ` Andrew Lunn
2018-11-07 20:45       ` Heiner Kallweit
2018-11-08  7:20         ` Heiner Kallweit
2018-11-08 22:58 ` David Miller
2018-11-08 23:00   ` Florian Fainelli
2018-11-08 23:01     ` Andrew Lunn
2018-11-08 23:04     ` David Miller

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