From: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <jbrouer@redhat.com>,
"Prashant Bhole" <prashantbhole.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: "David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
Toshiaki Makita <toshiaki.makita1@gmail.com>,
Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>, Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>, Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@fb.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 11/14] tun: run XDP program in tx path
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2019 09:33:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <65eb61c0-61a6-02d1-6c7c-f950d1d037be@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fthh6ehg.fsf@toke.dk>
On 12/18/19 4:48 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 17:10:47 +0900
>> Prashant Bhole <prashantbhole.linux@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +static u32 tun_do_xdp_tx(struct tun_struct *tun, struct tun_file *tfile,
>>> + struct xdp_frame *frame)
>>> +{
>>> + struct bpf_prog *xdp_prog;
>>> + struct tun_page tpage;
>>> + struct xdp_buff xdp;
>>> + u32 act = XDP_PASS;
>>> + int flush = 0;
>>> +
>>> + xdp_prog = rcu_dereference(tun->xdp_tx_prog);
>>> + if (xdp_prog) {
>>> + xdp.data_hard_start = frame->data - frame->headroom;
>>> + xdp.data = frame->data;
>>> + xdp.data_end = xdp.data + frame->len;
>>> + xdp.data_meta = xdp.data - frame->metasize;
>>
>> You have not configured xdp.rxq, thus a BPF-prog accessing this will crash.
>>
>> For an XDP TX hook, I want us to provide/give BPF-prog access to some
>> more information about e.g. the current tx-queue length, or TC-q number.
>>
>> Question to Daniel or Alexei, can we do this and still keep BPF_PROG_TYPE_XDP?
>> Or is it better to introduce a new BPF prog type (enum bpf_prog_type)
>> for XDP TX-hook ?
>
> I think a new program type would make the most sense. If/when we
> introduce an XDP TX hook[0], it should have different semantics than the
> regular XDP hook. I view the XDP TX hook as a hook that executes as the
> very last thing before packets leave the interface. It should have
> access to different context data as you say, but also I don't think it
> makes sense to have XDP_TX and XDP_REDIRECT in an XDP_TX hook. And we
> may also want to have a "throttle" return code; or maybe that could be
> done via a helper?
XDP_TX does not make sense in the Tx path. Jason questioned whether
XDP_RX makes sense. There is not a clear use case just yet.
REDIRECT is another one that would be useful as you point out below.
A new program type would allow support for these to be added over time
and not hold up the ability to do XDP_DROP in the Tx path.
>
> In any case, I don't think this "emulated RX hook on the other end of a
> virtual device" model that this series introduces is the right semantics
> for an XDP TX hook. I can see what you're trying to do, and for virtual
> point-to-point links I think it may make sense to emulate the RX hook of
> the "other end" on TX. However, form a UAPI perspective, I don't think
> we should be calling this a TX hook; logically, it's still an RX hook
> on the receive end.
>
> If you guys are up for evolving this design into a "proper" TX hook (as
> outlined above an in [0]), that would be awesome, of course. But not
> sure what constraints you have on your original problem? Do you
> specifically need the "emulated RX hook for unmodified XDP programs"
> semantics, or could your problem be solved with a TX hook with different
> semantics?
>
> -Toke
>
>
> [0] We've suggested this in the past, see
> https://github.com/xdp-project/xdp-project/blob/master/xdp-project.org#xdp-hook-at-tx
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-12-18 16:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-18 8:10 [RFC net-next 00/14] XDP in tx path Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 8:10 ` [RFC net-next 01/14] net: add tx path XDP support Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 8:10 ` [RFC net-next 02/14] tools: sync kernel uapi/linux/if_link.h header Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 8:10 ` [RFC net-next 03/14] libbpf: API for tx path XDP support Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 18:20 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-12-18 8:10 ` [RFC net-next 04/14] samples/bpf: xdp1, add XDP tx support Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 8:10 ` [RFC net-next 05/14] net: core: rename netif_receive_generic_xdp() to do_generic_xdp_core() Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 8:10 ` [RFC net-next 06/14] net: core: export do_xdp_generic_core() Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 8:10 ` [RFC net-next 07/14] tuntap: check tun_msg_ctl type at necessary places Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 8:10 ` [RFC net-next 08/14] vhost_net: user tap recvmsg api to access ptr ring Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 8:10 ` [RFC net-next 09/14] tuntap: remove usage of ptr ring in vhost_net Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 8:10 ` [RFC net-next 10/14] tun: set tx path XDP program Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 8:10 ` [RFC net-next 11/14] tun: run XDP program in tx path Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 10:07 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2019-12-18 11:48 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-12-18 16:33 ` David Ahern [this message]
2019-12-19 2:44 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-18 18:19 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-12-19 2:34 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-12-19 10:15 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-12-20 0:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-12-20 3:24 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-20 4:46 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-12-20 7:36 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-20 10:11 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-12-20 16:11 ` David Ahern
2019-12-20 22:17 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-12-23 6:05 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-23 8:09 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-12-23 8:34 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-23 11:06 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 16:29 ` David Ahern
2019-12-19 1:47 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 8:10 ` [RFC net-next 12/14] tun: add a way to inject tx path packet into Rx path Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 8:10 ` [RFC net-next 13/14] tun: handle XDP_TX action of tx path XDP program Prashant Bhole
2019-12-18 8:10 ` [RFC net-next 14/14] tun: run xdp prog when tun is read from file interface Prashant Bhole
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