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From: Kurt Kanzenbach <kurt@linutronix.de>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Kamil Alkhouri <kamil.alkhouri@hs-offenburg.de>,
	ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v6 2/7] net: dsa: Add DSA driver for Hirschmann Hellcreek switches
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2020 07:58:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871ri8ndof.fsf@kurt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201008114926.2c4slmnmqkncsogz@skbuf>

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On Thu Oct 08 2020, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 12:13:04PM +0200, Kurt Kanzenbach wrote:
>> >> >> +static const struct hellcreek_platform_data de1soc_r1_pdata = {
>> >> >> +	.num_ports	 = 4,
>> >> >> +	.is_100_mbits	 = 1,
>> >> >> +	.qbv_support	 = 1,
>> >> >> +	.qbv_on_cpu_port = 1,
>> >> >
>> >> > Why does this matter?
>> >> 
>> >> Because Qbv on the CPU port is a feature and not all switch variants
>> >> have that. It will matter as soon as TAPRIO is implemented.
>> >
>> > How do you plan to install a tc-taprio qdisc on the CPU port?
>> 
>> That's an issue to be sorted out.
>
> Do you have a compelling use case for tc-taprio on the CPU port though?
> I've been waiting for someone to put one on the table.

Yes, we do. This feature is a must for switched endpoints. Imagine one
port is connected to a PLC with tight cycle times and the other port is
connected to the out side world doing best effort traffic. Under no
circumstances should the ingressing best effort traffic interfere with
the incoming real time traffic. Using strict priorities is not enough as
a best effort frame still might block the wire for a certain period of
time. Therefore, this feature exists in the hardware and Qbv is needed
on the CPU port.

> If it's just "nice to have", I don't think that DSA will change just to
> accomodate that. The fact that the CPU port doesn't have a net device is
> already pretty much the established behavior.

Yes, I know that. Anyhow we'll have to find a solution to that problem.

Thanks,
Kurt

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-09  5:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-04 11:29 [PATCH net-next v6 0/7] Hirschmann Hellcreek DSA driver Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-04 11:29 ` [PATCH net-next v6 1/7] net: dsa: Add tag handling for Hirschmann Hellcreek switches Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-04 11:56   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-05  6:14     ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-04 11:29 ` [PATCH net-next v6 2/7] net: dsa: Add DSA driver " Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-04 12:56   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-06  6:09     ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-06  9:20       ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-06 10:13         ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-06 11:32           ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-06 12:37             ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-06 13:23             ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-06 13:42               ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-06 14:05                 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-06 14:10                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-06 13:56               ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-06 14:13                 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-11 12:29                 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-11 15:30                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-12  5:37                     ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-16 12:11                       ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-16 15:43                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-16 16:56                           ` Florian Fainelli
2020-10-17 10:06                             ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-17 15:57                             ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-08 11:49           ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-09  5:58             ` Kurt Kanzenbach [this message]
2020-10-04 11:29 ` [PATCH net-next v6 3/7] net: dsa: hellcreek: Add PTP clock support Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-04 11:29 ` [PATCH net-next v6 4/7] net: dsa: hellcreek: Add support for hardware timestamping Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-04 14:30   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-06  6:27     ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-06  7:28       ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-06 13:30         ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-06 13:32           ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-06 13:56             ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-06 14:01               ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-07 10:39                 ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-07 10:54                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-08  8:34                     ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-08  9:44                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-08 10:01                         ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-08 12:55                           ` Kamil Alkhouri
2020-10-08 15:09                             ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-12 12:53                               ` Kamil Alkhouri
2020-10-12 21:42                                 ` Richard Cochran
2020-10-14  9:57                                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-14 11:01                                     ` Richard Cochran
2020-10-14 11:37                                       ` Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-04 11:29 ` [PATCH net-next v6 5/7] net: dsa: hellcreek: Add PTP status LEDs Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-04 11:29 ` [PATCH net-next v6 6/7] dt-bindings: Add vendor prefix for Hirschmann Kurt Kanzenbach
2020-10-04 11:29 ` [PATCH net-next v6 7/7] dt-bindings: net: dsa: Add documentation for Hellcreek switches Kurt Kanzenbach

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