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From: Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>
To: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	cphealy@gmail.com, davem@davemloft.net, hkallweit1@gmail.com,
	mkubecek@suse.cz, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 4/9] net: ethtool: Add attributes for cable test reports
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 21:32:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e8fa21bd1b51104038dbdc54fb61674@walle.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <743b2495-eab1-01af-1c1c-269f992b802a@gmail.com>

Am 2020-04-29 20:58, schrieb Florian Fainelli:
> On 4/29/20 11:57 AM, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 06:16:05PM +0200, Michael Walle wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>>>>>> +enum {
>>>>>>> +	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_0,
>>>>>>> +	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_1,
>>>>>>> +	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_2,
>>>>>>> +	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_3,
>>>>>>> +};
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do we really need this enum, couldn't we simply use a number 
>>>>>> (possibly
>>>>>> with a sanity check of maximum value)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> They are not strictly required. But it helps with consistence. Are 
>>>>> the
>>>>> pairs numbered 0, 1, 2, 3, or 1, 2, 3, 4?
>>>> 
>>>> OK, I'm not strictly opposed to it, it just felt a bit weird.
>>> 
>>> Speaking of the pairs. What is PAIR_0 and what is PAIR_3? Maybe
>>> it is specified somewhere in a standard, but IMHO an example for
>>> a normal TP cable would help to prevent wild growth amongst the
>>> PHY drivers and would help to provide consistent reporting towards
>>> the user space.
>> 
>> Hi Michael
>> 
>> Good question
>> 
>> Section 25.4.3 gives the pin out for 100BaseT. There is no pair
>> numbering, just transmit+, transmit- and receive+, receive- signals.
>> 
>> 1000BaseT calls the signals BI_DA+, BI_DA-, BI_DB+, BI_DB-, BI_DC+,
>> BI_DC-, BI_DDA+, BI_DD-. Comparing the pinout 100BaseT would use
>> BI_DA+, BI_DA-, BI_DB+, BI_DB. But 1000BaseT does not really have
>> transmit and receive pairs due to Auto MDI-X.
>> 
>> BroadReach calls the one pair it has BI_DA+/BI_DA-.
>> 
>> Maybe it would be better to have:
>> 
>> enum {
>> 	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_A,
>> 	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_B,
>> 	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_C,
>> 	ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_PAIR_D,
>> };
> 
> Yes, that would be clearer IMHO. Broadcom PHYs tend to refer to pairs 
> A,
> B, C and D in their datasheets.

Qualcomm Atheros calls them MDI[0], MDI[1], etc.. maybe mention
the corresponding pin on an RJ45 connector for reference?

-michael


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-29 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-25 18:06 [PATCH net-next v1 0/9] Ethernet Cable test support Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 1/9] net: phy: Add cable test support to state machine Andrew Lunn
2020-04-26 19:46   ` Michal Kubecek
2020-04-26 20:31     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-26 21:22   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 2/9] net: phy: Add support for polling cable test Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 19:49   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-25 20:10     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-26 21:19       ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-26 22:07         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 3/9] net: ethtool: netlink: Add support for triggering a " Andrew Lunn
2020-04-26 19:36   ` Michal Kubecek
2020-04-26 20:38     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-26 20:50       ` Michal Kubecek
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 4/9] net: ethtool: Add attributes for cable test reports Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 20:00   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-04-26 20:25   ` Michal Kubecek
2020-04-26 21:12     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-27  7:13       ` Michal Kubecek
2020-04-29 16:16   ` Michael Walle
2020-04-29 18:57     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-29 18:58       ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-29 19:32         ` Michael Walle [this message]
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 5/9] net: ethtool: Make helpers public Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 6/9] net: ethtool: Add infrastructure for reporting cable test results Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 7/9] net: ethtool: Add helpers for reporting " Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 8/9] net: phy: marvell: Add cable test support Andrew Lunn
2020-04-25 18:06 ` [PATCH net-next v1 9/9] net: phy: Put interface into oper testing during cable test Andrew Lunn
2020-04-29 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next v1 0/9] Ethernet Cable test support Michael Walle
2020-04-29 16:32   ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-30 17:48     ` Michael Walle
2020-04-30 18:23       ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-30 19:44         ` Michael Walle
2020-04-30 20:51           ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-30 18:34       ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-30 19:31         ` Michael Walle
2020-04-30 19:38           ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-30 19:52             ` Michael Walle
2020-04-30 19:41           ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-30 20:01             ` Michael Walle
2020-04-30 20:56               ` Andrew Lunn
2020-04-30 20:04             ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-30 20:13               ` Michael Walle
2020-04-30 20:19                 ` Florian Fainelli
2020-04-30 21:16                   ` Michael Walle

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