From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Linus Torvalds Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 08/26] locking: Remove spin_unlock_wait() generic definitions Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 09:40:22 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20170629235918.GA6445@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1498780894-8253-8-git-send-email-paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170630091928.GC9726@arm.com> <20170630123815.GT2393@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170630131339.GA14118@arm.com> <20170630221840.GI2393@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170703131514.GE1573@arm.com> <20170703161851.GY2393@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Cc: Will Deacon , Linux Kernel Mailing List , NetFilter , Network Development , Oleg Nesterov , Andrew Morton , Ingo Molnar , Davidlohr Bueso , Manfred Spraul , Tejun Heo , Arnd Bergmann , "linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" , Peter Zijlstra , Alan Stern , Andrea Parri To: Paul McKenney Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20170703161851.GY2393@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Sender: linux-arch-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: netdev.vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > Agreed, and my next step is to look at spin_lock() followed by > spin_is_locked(), not necessarily the same lock. Hmm. Most (all?) "spin_is_locked()" really should be about the same thread that took the lock (ie it's about asserts and lock debugging). The optimistic ABBA avoidance pattern for spinlocks *should* be spin_lock(inner) ... if (!try_lock(outer)) { spin_unlock(inner); .. do them in the right order .. so I don't think spin_is_locked() should have any memory barriers. In fact, the core function for spin_is_locked() is arguably arch_spin_value_unlocked() which doesn't even do the access itself. Linus