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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Wei Wang <weiwan@google.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] virtio-net: suppress bad irq warning for tx napi
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 15:47:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+FuTSf-uWyK6Jz=G67p+ep693oTczF55EUzrH9fXzBqTnoMQA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEA6p_BqKECAU=C55TpJedG9gkZDakiiN27dcWOTJYH0YOFA_w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 6:53 PM Wei Wang <weiwan@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 3:10 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 01:24:08PM -0500, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 5:42 AM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 07:06:53PM -0500, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 6:53 PM Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 6:47 PM Wei Wang <weiwan@google.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 3:12 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 04:21:36PM -0800, Wei Wang wrote:
> > > > > > > > > With the implementation of napi-tx in virtio driver, we clean tx
> > > > > > > > > descriptors from rx napi handler, for the purpose of reducing tx
> > > > > > > > > complete interrupts. But this could introduce a race where tx complete
> > > > > > > > > interrupt has been raised, but the handler found there is no work to do
> > > > > > > > > because we have done the work in the previous rx interrupt handler.
> > > > > > > > > This could lead to the following warning msg:
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.010778] irq 38: nobody cared (try booting with the
> > > > > > > > > "irqpoll" option)
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.017938] CPU: 4 PID: 0 Comm: swapper/4 Not tainted
> > > > > > > > > 5.3.0-19-generic #20~18.04.2-Ubuntu
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.017940] Call Trace:
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.017942]  <IRQ>
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.017951]  dump_stack+0x63/0x85
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.017953]  __report_bad_irq+0x35/0xc0
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.017955]  note_interrupt+0x24b/0x2a0
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.017956]  handle_irq_event_percpu+0x54/0x80
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.017957]  handle_irq_event+0x3b/0x60
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.017958]  handle_edge_irq+0x83/0x1a0
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.017961]  handle_irq+0x20/0x30
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.017964]  do_IRQ+0x50/0xe0
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.017966]  common_interrupt+0xf/0xf
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.017966]  </IRQ>
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.017989] handlers:
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.020374] [<000000001b9f1da8>] vring_interrupt
> > > > > > > > > [ 3588.025099] Disabling IRQ #38
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This patch adds a new param to struct vring_virtqueue, and we set it for
> > > > > > > > > tx virtqueues if napi-tx is enabled, to suppress the warning in such
> > > > > > > > > case.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Fixes: 7b0411ef4aa6 ("virtio-net: clean tx descriptors from rx napi")
> > > > > > > > > Reported-by: Rick Jones <jonesrick@google.com>
> > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Wei Wang <weiwan@google.com>
> > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This description does not make sense to me.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > irq X: nobody cared
> > > > > > > > only triggers after an interrupt is unhandled repeatedly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So something causes a storm of useless tx interrupts here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Let's find out what it was please. What you are doing is
> > > > > > > > just preventing linux from complaining.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The traffic that causes this warning is a netperf tcp_stream with at
> > > > > > > least 128 flows between 2 hosts. And the warning gets triggered on the
> > > > > > > receiving host, which has a lot of rx interrupts firing on all queues,
> > > > > > > and a few tx interrupts.
> > > > > > > And I think the scenario is: when the tx interrupt gets fired, it gets
> > > > > > > coalesced with the rx interrupt. Basically, the rx and tx interrupts
> > > > > > > get triggered very close to each other, and gets handled in one round
> > > > > > > of do_IRQ(). And the rx irq handler gets called first, which calls
> > > > > > > virtnet_poll(). However, virtnet_poll() calls virtnet_poll_cleantx()
> > > > > > > to try to do the work on the corresponding tx queue as well. That's
> > > > > > > why when tx interrupt handler gets called, it sees no work to do.
> > > > > > > And the reason for the rx handler to handle the tx work is here:
> > > > > > > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/virtualization/2017-April/034740.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Indeed. It's not a storm necessarily. The warning occurs after one
> > > > > > hundred such events, since boot, which is a small number compared real
> > > > > > interrupt load.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry, this is wrong. It is the other call to __report_bad_irq from
> > > > > note_interrupt that applies here.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Occasionally seeing an interrupt with no work is expected after
> > > > > > 7b0411ef4aa6 ("virtio-net: clean tx descriptors from rx napi"). As
> > > > > > long as this rate of events is very low compared to useful interrupts,
> > > > > > and total interrupt count is greatly reduced vs not having work
> > > > > > stealing, it is a net win.
> > > >
> > > > Right, but if 99900 out of 100000 interrupts were wasted, then it is
> > > > surely an even greater win to disable interrupts while polling like
> > > > this.  Might be tricky to detect, disabling/enabling aggressively every
> > > > time even if there's nothing in the queue is sure to cause lots of cache
> > > > line bounces, and we don't want to enable callbacks if they were not
> > > > enabled e.g. by start_xmit ...  Some kind of counter?
> > >
> > > Yes. It was known that the work stealing is more effective in some
> > > workloads than others. But a 99% spurious rate I had not anticipated.
> > >
> > > Most interesting is the number of interrupts suppressed as a result of
> > > the feature. That is not captured by this statistic.
> > >
> > > In any case, we'll take a step back to better understand behavior. And
> > > especially why this high spurious rate exhibits in this workload with
> > > many concurrent flows.
> >
> >
> > I've been thinking about it. Imagine work stealing working perfectly.
> > Each time we xmit a packet, it is stolen and freed.
> > Since xmit enables callbacks (just in case!) we also
> > get an interrupt, which is automatically spurious.
> >
> > My conclusion is that we shouldn't just work around it but instead
> > (or additionally?)
> > reduce the number of interrupts by disabling callbacks e.g. when
> > a. we are currently stealing packets
> > or
> > b. we stole all packets

Agreed. This might prove a significant performance gain at the same time :)

> >
> Thinking along this line, that probably means, we should disable cb on
> the tx virtqueue, when scheduling the napi work on the rx side, and
> reenable it after the rx napi work is done?
> Also, I wonder if it is too late to disable cb at the point we start
> to steal pkts or have stolen all pkts.

The earlier the better. I see no benefit to delay until the rx handler
actually runs.

> Because the steal work is done
> in the napi handler of the rx queue. But the tx interrupt must have
> been raised before that. Will we come back to process the tx interrupt
> again after we re-enabled the cb on the tx side?
>
> > This should be enough to reduce the chances below 99% ;)
> >
> > One annoying thing is that with split and event index, we do not disable
> > interrupts. Could be worth revisiting, for now maybe just disable the
> > event index feature? I am not sure it is actually worth it with
> > stealing.

With event index, we suppress interrupts when another interrupt is
already pending from a previous packet, right? When the previous
position of the producer is already beyond the consumer. It doesn't
matter whether the previous packet triggered a tx interrupt or
deferred to an already scheduled rx interrupt? From that seems fine to
leave it out.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-04 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-29  0:21 [PATCH net] virtio-net: suppress bad irq warning for tx napi Wei Wang
2021-02-02  2:24 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-02-02  3:06 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-02 14:37   ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-03  5:33     ` Jason Wang
2021-02-03 18:28       ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-04  3:06         ` Jason Wang
2021-02-04 20:50           ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-08  3:29             ` Jason Wang
2021-02-08 19:08               ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-09  3:27                 ` Jason Wang
2021-02-09 14:58                   ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-09 18:00                     ` Wei Wang
2021-02-10  9:14                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-11  0:13                         ` Wei Wang
2021-02-18  5:39                         ` Jason Wang
2021-02-21 11:33                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-02 23:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-02 23:47   ` Wei Wang
2021-02-02 23:53     ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-03  0:06       ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-03 10:38         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-03 18:24           ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-02-03 23:09             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-02-03 23:52               ` Wei Wang
2021-02-04 20:47                 ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2021-02-05 22:28                   ` Wei Wang
2021-04-13  5:15                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-29 20:21                       ` Wei Wang
2021-09-29 21:53                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-29 23:08                           ` Wei Wang
2021-09-30  5:40                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-09-30 18:10                             ` Dave Taht
2021-04-12 22:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-04-12 22:33   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-04-12 23:14     ` David Miller
2021-04-13  4:24       ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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