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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: "Luigi Rizzo" <lrizzo@google.com>,
	"Network Development" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	hawk@kernel.org, "Jubran, Samih" <sameehj@amazon.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] netdev attribute to control xdpgeneric skb linearization
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 18:53:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+FuTSfd80pZroxtqZDsTeEz4FaronC=pdgjeaBBfYqqi5HiyQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200228110043.2771fddb@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:01 PM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 02:54:35 -0800 Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > Add a netdevice flag to control skb linearization in generic xdp mode.
> >
> > The attribute can be modified through
> >       /sys/class/net/<DEVICE>/xdpgeneric_linearize
> > The default is 1 (on)
> >
> > Motivation: xdp expects linear skbs with some minimum headroom, and
> > generic xdp calls skb_linearize() if needed. The linearization is
> > expensive, and may be unnecessary e.g. when the xdp program does
> > not need access to the whole payload.
> > This sysfs entry allows users to opt out of linearization on a
> > per-device basis (linearization is still performed on cloned skbs).
> >
> > On a kernel instrumented to grab timestamps around the linearization
> > code in netif_receive_generic_xdp, and heavy netperf traffic with 1500b
> > mtu, I see the following times (nanoseconds/pkt)
> >
> > The receiver generally sees larger packets so the difference is more
> > significant.
> >
> > ns/pkt                   RECEIVER                 SENDER
> >
> >                     p50     p90     p99       p50   p90    p99
> >
> > LINEARIZATION:    600ns  1090ns  4900ns     149ns 249ns  460ns
> > NO LINEARIZATION:  40ns    59ns    90ns      40ns  50ns  100ns
> >
> > v1 --> v2 : added Documentation
> > v2 --> v3 : adjusted for skb_cloned
> > v3 --> v4 : renamed to xdpgeneric_linearize, documentation
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Luigi Rizzo <lrizzo@google.com>
>
> Just load your program in cls_bpf. No extensions or knobs needed.
>
> Making xdpgeneric-only extensions without touching native XDP makes
> no sense to me. Is this part of some greater vision?

Yes, native xdp has the same issue when handling packets that exceed a
page (4K+ MTU) or otherwise consist of multiple segments. The issue is
just more acute in generic xdp. But agreed that both need to be solved
together.

Many programs need only access to the header. There currently is not a
way to express this, or for xdp to convey that the buffer covers only
part of the packet.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-28 23:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-28 10:54 [PATCH v4] netdev attribute to control xdpgeneric skb linearization Luigi Rizzo
2020-02-28 11:20 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-02-28 12:12 ` Michal Kubecek
2020-02-28 12:29 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-02-28 13:19   ` Luigi Rizzo
2020-02-28 12:30 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-02-28 19:00 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-02-28 23:53   ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2020-03-03 19:46     ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-03-03 20:50       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-03-03 21:04         ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-03-03 21:10         ` Willem de Bruijn
2020-03-04  9:18           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-03-04 10:06       ` Luigi Rizzo

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