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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 net-next 00/17] PTP support for the SJA1105 DSA driver
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 16:40:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+h21hosUmUu98QdzKTJPUd2PEwa+sUg1SNY1ti95kD6kOqE6A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190606031135.6lyydjb6hqfeuzt3@localhost>

On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 06:11, Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 09:08:54PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> > Currently I'm using a cyclecounter, but I *will* need actual PHC
> > manipulations for the time-based shaping and policing features that
> > the switch has in hardware.
>
> Okay.
>
> > On the other hand I get much tighter sync
> > offset using the free-running counter than with hardware-corrected
> > timestamps.
>
> Why?  The time stamps come from the very same counter, don't they?
>

Plain and simply because it doesn't work very well.
Even phc2sys from the system clock to the hardware (no timestamps
involved) has trouble staying put (under 1000 ns offset).
And using the hardware-corrected timestamps triggers a lot of clockchecks.

> > So as far as I see it, I'll need to have two sets of
> > operations.
>
> I doubt very much that this will work well.
>
> > How should I design such a dual-PHC device driver? Just register two
> > separate clocks, one for the timestamping counter, the other for the
> > scheduling/policing PTP clock, and have phc2sys keep them in sync
> > externally to the driver?
>
> But how would phc2sys do this?  By comparing clock_gettime() values?
> That would surely introduce unnecessary time error.
>
> > Or implement the hardware corrections
> > alongside the timecounter ones, and expose a single PHC (and for
> > clock_gettime, just pick one of the time sources)?
>
> I would implement the hardware clock and drop the timecounter
> altogether.
>
> HTH,
> Richard

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-06 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-04 17:07 [PATCH v3 net-next 00/17] PTP support for the SJA1105 DSA driver Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 01/17] net: dsa: Keep a pointer to the skb clone for TX timestamping Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 20:31   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 02/17] net: dsa: Add teardown callback for drivers Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 18:15   ` Andrew Lunn
2019-06-04 20:32   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 03/17] net: dsa: tag_8021q: Create helper function for removing VLAN header Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 04/17] net: dsa: sja1105: Move sja1105_change_tpid into sja1105_vlan_filtering Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 20:58   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 05/17] net: dsa: sja1105: Reverse TPID and TPID2 Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 20:33   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 06/17] net: dsa: sja1105: Limit use of incl_srcpt to bridge+vlan mode Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 20:35   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 07/17] net: dsa: sja1105: Add support for the PTP clock Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 08/17] net: dsa: sja1105: Move sja1105_is_link_local to include/linux Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 20:35   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 09/17] net: dsa: sja1105: Add logic for TX timestamping Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 10/17] net: dsa: sja1105: Build a minimal understanding of meta frames Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 21:00   ` Florian Fainelli
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 11/17] net: dsa: sja1105: Add support for the AVB Parameters Table Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 12/17] net: dsa: sja1105: Make sja1105_is_link_local not match meta frames Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 13/17] net: dsa: sja1105: Receive and decode " Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 14/17] net: dsa: sja1105: Add a global sja1105_tagger_data structure Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 15/17] net: dsa: sja1105: Increase priority of CPU-trapped frames Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 16/17] net: dsa: sja1105: Add a state machine for RX timestamping Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-04 17:07 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 17/17] net: dsa: sja1105: Expose PTP timestamping ioctls to userspace Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-05  3:22 ` [PATCH v3 net-next 00/17] PTP support for the SJA1105 DSA driver David Miller
2019-06-05  9:13   ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-05 11:33     ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-05 17:45       ` Richard Cochran
2019-06-05 17:50         ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-05 17:52           ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-05 18:08         ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-06  3:11           ` Richard Cochran
2019-06-06 13:40             ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2019-06-07  3:32               ` Richard Cochran
2019-06-07  9:43                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-06-05 18:44     ` David Miller
2019-06-07 19:15       ` David Miller
2019-06-07 19:38         ` Vladimir Oltean

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