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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Hubert Feurstein <h.feurstein@gmail.com>,
	Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH spi for-5.4 0/5] Deterministic SPI latency with NXP DSPI driver
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2019 23:17:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+h21hrtzU1XL-0m+BG5TYZvVh8WN6hgcM7CV5taHyq2MsR5dw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190821140815.GA1447@localhost>

Hi Richard,

On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 17:08, Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 09:38:45PM -0700, Richard Cochran wrote:
> > Overall, the PTP switch use case is well supported by Linux.  The
> > synchronization of the management CPU to the PTP, while nice to have,
> > is not required to implement a Transparent Clock.  Your specific
> > application might require it, but honestly, if the management CPU
> > needs good synchronization, then you really aught to feed a PPS from
> > the switch into a gpio (for example) on the CPU.
>
> Another way to achieve this is to have a second MAC interface on the
> management CPU connected to a spare port on the switch.  Then time
> stamping, PHC, ptp4l, and phc2sys work as expected.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard

Of course PPS with a dedicated hardware receiver that can take input
compare timestamps is always preferable. However non-Ethernet
synchronization in the field looks to me like "make do with whatever
you can". I'm not sure a plain GPIO that raises an interrupt is better
than an interrupt-driven serial protocol controller - it's (mostly)
the interrupts that throw off the precision of the software timestamp.
And use Miroslav's pps-gpio-poll module and you're back from where you
started (try to make a sw timestamp as precise as possible).
As for dedicating a second interface pair in (basically) loopback just
for sync, that's how I'm testing PTP when I don't have a second board
and hence how the idea occurred to me. I can imagine this even getting
deployed and I can also probably name an example, but it certainly
wouldn't be my first choice. But DSA could have that built-in, and
with the added latency benefit of a MAC-to-MAC connection.
Too bad the mv88e6xxx driver can't do loopback timestamping, that's
already 50% of the DSA drivers that support PTP at all. An embedded
solution for this is less compelling now.

Regards,
-Vladimir

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-21 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-18 18:25 [PATCH spi for-5.4 0/5] Deterministic SPI latency with NXP DSPI driver Vladimir Oltean
2019-08-18 18:25 ` [PATCH spi for-5.4 1/5] spi: Use an abbreviated pointer to ctlr->cur_msg in __spi_pump_messages Vladimir Oltean
2019-08-20 18:21   ` Mark Brown
2019-08-20 19:36     ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-08-21 11:01       ` Mark Brown
2019-08-18 18:25 ` [PATCH spi for-5.4 2/5] spi: Add a PTP system timestamp to the transfer structure Vladimir Oltean
2019-08-22 17:11   ` Mark Brown
2019-08-24 12:38     ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-08-27 19:01       ` Mark Brown
2019-08-18 18:25 ` [PATCH spi for-5.4 3/5] spi: spi-fsl-dspi: Use poll mode in case the platform IRQ is missing Vladimir Oltean
2019-08-22 17:38   ` Mark Brown
2019-08-18 18:25 ` [PATCH spi for-5.4 4/5] spi: spi-fsl-dspi: Implement the PTP system timestamping for TCFQ mode Vladimir Oltean
2019-08-18 18:26 ` [PATCH spi for-5.4 5/5] spi: spi-fsl-dspi: Disable interrupts and preemption during poll mode transfer Vladimir Oltean
2019-08-20 15:57 ` [PATCH spi for-5.4 0/5] Deterministic SPI latency with NXP DSPI driver Vladimir Oltean
2019-08-20 16:57   ` Andrew Lunn
2019-08-21  4:38   ` Richard Cochran
2019-08-21 14:08     ` Richard Cochran
2019-08-21 20:17       ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2019-08-22 14:16         ` Richard Cochran
2019-08-22 14:56           ` Andrew Lunn
2019-08-22 14:58           ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-08-22 16:05             ` Richard Cochran
2019-08-22 16:13               ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-08-23  5:22                 ` Richard Cochran
2019-08-24 12:13                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2019-08-22 16:10             ` Richard Cochran
2019-08-21  4:42   ` Richard Cochran

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