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From: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v6 09/15] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 18:54:28 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHS8izOExbcxNSW8b5UUO=Y2se8ypZfaoyoviQvqR-WVZ=7s-g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6562b8b0-6cc0-4652-b746-75549801c002@davidwei.uk>

On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 6:47 PM David Wei <dw@davidwei.uk> wrote:
>
> On 2024-03-05 18:42, Mina Almasry wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 6:28 PM David Wei <dw@davidwei.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2024-03-04 18:01, Mina Almasry wrote:
> >>> +     if (pool->p.queue)
> >>> +             binding = READ_ONCE(pool->p.queue->binding);
> >>> +
> >>> +     if (binding) {
> >>> +             pool->mp_ops = &dmabuf_devmem_ops;
> >>> +             pool->mp_priv = binding;
> >>> +     }
> >>
> >> This is specific to TCP devmem. For ZC Rx we will need something more
> >> generic to let us pass our own memory provider backend down to the page
> >> pool.
> >>
> >> What about storing ops and priv void ptr in struct netdev_rx_queue
> >> instead? Then we can both use it.
> >
> > Yes, this is dmabuf specific, I was thinking you'd define your own
> > member of netdev_rx_queue, and then add something like this to
> > page_pool_init:
> >
> > +       if (pool->p.queue)
> > +               io_uring_metadata = READ_ONCE(pool->p.queue->io_uring_metadata);
> > +
> > +       /* We don't support rx-queues that are configured for both
> > io_uring & dmabuf binding */
> > +       BUG_ON(io_uring_metadata && binding);
> > +
> > +       if (io_uring_metadata) {
> > +               pool->mp_ops = &io_uring_ops;
> > +               pool->mp_priv = io_uring_metadata;
> > +       }
> >
> > I.e., we share the pool->mp_ops and the pool->mp_priv but we don't
> > really need to share the same netdev_rx_queue member. For me it's a
> > dma-buf specific data structure (netdev_dmabuf_binding) and for you
> > it's something else.
>
> This adds size to struct netdev_rx_queue and requires checks on whether
> both are set. There can be thousands of these structs at any one time so
> if we don't need to add size unnecessarily then that would be best.
>
> We can disambiguate by comparing &mp_ops and then cast the void ptr to
> our impl specific objects.
>
> What do you not like about this approach?
>

I was thinking it leaks page_pool specifics into a generic struct
unrelated to the page pool like netdev_rx_queue. My mental model is
that the rx-queue just says that it's bound to a dma-buf/io_uring
unaware of page_pool internals, and the page pool internals figure out
what to do from there.

Currently netdev_rx_queue.h doesn't include net/page_pool/types.h for
example because there is no dependency between netdev_rx_queue &
page_pool, I think this change would add a dependency.

But I concede it does not matter much AFAICT, I can certainly change
the netdev_rx_queue to hold the mp_priv & mp_ops directly and include
net/page_pool/types.h if you prefer that. I'll look into applying this
change in the next iteration if there are no objections.

> >
> > page_pool_init() probably needs to validate that the queue is
> > configured for dma-buf or io_uring but not both. If it's configured
> > for both then the user is doing something funky we shouldn't support.
> >
> > Perhaps I can make the intention clearer by renaming 'binding' to
> > something more specific to dma-buf like queue->dmabuf_binding, to make
> > it clear that this is the dma-buf binding and not some other binding
> > like io_uring?
> >



-- 
Thanks,
Mina

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-06  2:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-05  2:01 [RFC PATCH net-next v6 00/15] Device Memory TCP Mina Almasry
2024-03-05  2:01 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 01/15] queue_api: define queue api Mina Almasry
2024-03-08  1:30   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-03-08  2:08     ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-08  3:36       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-03-08 23:47   ` David Wei
2024-03-09  0:27     ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-11  1:12     ` David Ahern
2024-03-05  2:01 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 02/15] net: page_pool: create hooks for custom page providers Mina Almasry
2024-03-05 21:54   ` David Wei
2024-03-05 22:36     ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-06 14:29       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-03-06 17:04         ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-06 19:12           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-03-06 21:59             ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-07 14:25               ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-03-08  4:57   ` David Wei
2024-03-08 19:53     ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-18  2:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-18  2:49     ` David Wei
2024-03-18 23:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-22 17:40         ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-22 23:19           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-03-24 23:35             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-24 23:35           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-22 17:54     ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-24 23:37       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-03-26 20:19         ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-28  7:31           ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-04-01 19:22             ` Mina Almasry
2024-04-08 15:34               ` Cong Wang
2024-03-05  2:01 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 03/15] net: page_pool: factor out page_pool recycle check Mina Almasry
2024-03-05 12:55   ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-03-05  2:01 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 04/15] net: netdev netlink api to bind dma-buf to a net device Mina Almasry
2024-03-05  2:01 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 05/15] netdev: support binding dma-buf to netdevice Mina Almasry
2024-03-05  9:04   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-03-05 20:00     ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-05 21:42       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-03-05 12:55   ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-03-05 21:17     ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-06 12:38       ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-03-06 22:10         ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-07 12:15           ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-03-08  3:58   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-03-05  2:01 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 06/15] netdev: netdevice devmem allocator Mina Almasry
2024-03-05  2:01 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 07/15] page_pool: convert to use netmem Mina Almasry
2024-03-05 21:30   ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-05  2:01 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 08/15] page_pool: devmem support Mina Almasry
2024-03-05 21:42   ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-05  2:01 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 09/15] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider Mina Almasry
2024-03-06  2:28   ` David Wei
2024-03-06  2:42     ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-06  2:46       ` David Wei
2024-03-06  2:54         ` Mina Almasry [this message]
2024-03-06 14:58       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-03-06 16:51         ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-05  2:01 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 10/15] net: support non paged skb frags Mina Almasry
2024-03-05  2:01 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 11/15] net: add support for skbs with unreadable frags Mina Almasry
2024-03-05  2:01 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 12/15] tcp: RX path for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2024-03-05  8:41   ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-03-05 19:22     ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-05 19:39       ` Arnd Bergmann
2024-03-05  2:01 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 13/15] net: add SO_DEVMEM_DONTNEED setsockopt to release RX frags Mina Almasry
2024-03-05  2:01 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 14/15] net: add devmem TCP documentation Mina Almasry
2024-03-08  1:52   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-03-05  2:01 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 15/15] selftests: add ncdevmem, netcat for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2024-03-05  7:16 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 07/15] page_pool: convert to use netmem David Howells
2024-03-05 12:54 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v6 00/15] Device Memory TCP Yunsheng Lin
2024-03-05 19:38   ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-06 12:37     ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-03-26  0:28     ` Mina Almasry
2024-03-26 12:47       ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-03-26 20:14         ` Mina Almasry

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