From: Arjun Roy <arjunroy@google.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
Arjun Roy <arjunroy.kdev@gmail.com>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Soheil Hassas Yeganeh <soheil@google.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next v2 2/2] tcp: Add receive timestamp support for receive zerocopy.
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 17:32:28 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOFY-A0fN20RdeLS+SXZ2-WC_3rtLEhgXkC8jJtX_431OrNy9Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210204160006.439ce566@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com>
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 4:00 PM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 15:03:40 -0800 Arjun Roy wrote:
> > But, if it's an IN or IN-OUT field, it seems like mandating that the
> > application set it to 0 could break the case where a future
> > application sets it to some non-zero value and runs on an older
> > kernel.
>
> That usually works fine in practice, 0 means "do what old kernels did /
> feature not requested", then if newer userspace sets the field to non-0
> that means it requires a feature the kernel doesn't support. So -EINVAL
> / -EOPNOTSUPP is right. BPF syscall has been successfully doing this
> since day 1, I'm not aware of any major snags.
>
Alright, sounds good.
> > And allowing it to be non-zero can maybe yield an unexpected
> > outcome if an old application that did not zero it runs on a newer
> > kernel.
>
> Could you refresh our memory as to why we can't require the application
> to pass zero-ed memory to TCP ZC? In practice is there are max
> reasonable length of the argument that such legacy application may pass
> so that we can start checking at a certain offset?
>
Actually I think that's fine. We have hitherto been just using length
checks to distinguish between feature capability for rx. zerocopy but
I think we can draw the line at this point (now that there's
ambiguity) and start requiring zero'd memory.
I will send out a patch soon; reserved u32 field, must be set to 0 for
the current kernel, can be non-zero and in/out in future kernels as
discussed.
Thanks,
-Arjun
> > So: maybe the right move is to mark it as reserved, not care what the
> > input value is, always set it to 0 before returning to the user, and
> > explicitly mandate that any future use of the field must be as an
> > OUT-only parameter?
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-05 1:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-21 0:41 [net-next v2 0/2] tcp: add CMSG+rx timestamps to rx. zerocopy Arjun Roy
2021-01-21 0:41 ` [net-next v2 1/2] tcp: Remove CMSG magic numbers for tcp_recvmsg() Arjun Roy
2021-01-21 0:41 ` [net-next v2 2/2] tcp: Add receive timestamp support for receive zerocopy Arjun Roy
2021-01-23 4:07 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-01-23 5:55 ` David Ahern
2021-01-25 6:15 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-02-02 2:06 ` David Ahern
2021-02-02 2:20 ` Arjun Roy
2021-02-02 6:52 ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-02-04 23:03 ` Arjun Roy
2021-02-05 0:00 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-02-05 1:32 ` Arjun Roy [this message]
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