From: Ani Sinha <ani@aristanetworks.com>
To: Bill Fenner <fenner@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca>,
tcpdump-workers@lists.tcpdump.org,
Francesco Ruggeri <fruggeri@aristanetworks.com>
Subject: Re: vlan tagged packets and libpcap breakage
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:41:21 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOxq_8N7mSY9rLTeSdUohV5ufU+QF7DtrjwZ3xnAbuP9mRm3jQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF4SogYMyANyZ4-RYoVHf3TewPVQgR49m5HLDdwVMJ7sn8_XxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Folks,
I'm wondering if there has been any progress on this. Are there any
thoughts on what Bill wrote in his email?
Thanks
ani
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:13 AM, Bill Fenner <fenner@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Guy Harris <guy@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> > On Oct 31, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Ani Sinha <ani@aristanetworks.com> wrote:
> >
> >> pcap files that already have the tags reinsrted should work with
> >> current filter code. However for live traffic, one has to get the tags
> >> from CMSG() and then reinsert it back to the packet for the current
> >> filter to work.
> >
> > *Somebody* has to do that, at least to packets that pass the filter,
> before they're handed to a libpcap-based application, for programs that
> expect to see packets as they arrived from/were transmitted to the wire to
> work.
> >
> > I.e., the tags *should* be reinserted by libpcap, and, as I understand
> it, that's what the
> >
> > #if defined(HAVE_PACKET_AUXDATA) &&
> defined(HAVE_LINUX_TPACKET_AUXDATA_TP_VLAN_TCI)
> > ...
> > #endif
> >
> > blocks of code in pcap-linux.c in libpcap are doing.
> >
> > Now, if filtering is being done in the *kernel*, and the tags aren't
> being reinserted by the kernel, then filter code stuffed into the kernel
> would need to differ from filter code run in userland. There's already
> precedent for that on Linux, with the "cooked mode" headers; those are
> synthesized by libpcap from the metadata returned for PF_PACKET sockets,
> and the code that attempts to hand the kernel a filter goes through the
> filter code, which was generated under the assumption that the packet
> begins with a "cooked mode" header, and modifies (a copy of) the code to,
> instead, use the special Linux-BPF-interpreter offsets to access the
> metadata.
> >
> > The right thing to do here would be to, if possible, do the same, so
> that the kernel doesn't have to reinsert VLAN tags for packets that aren't
> going to be handed to userland.
>
> In this case, it would be incredibly complicated to do this just
> postprocessing a set of bpf instructions. The problem is that when
> running the filter in the kernel, the IP header, etc. are not offset,
> so "off_macpl" and "off_linktype" would be zero, not 4, while
> generating the rest of the expression. We would also have to insert
> code when comparing the ethertype to 0x8100 to instead load the
> vlan-tagged metadata, so all jumps crossing that point would have to
> be adjusted, and if the "if-false" instruction was also testing the
> ethertype, then the ethertype would have to be reloaded (again
> inserting another instruction).
>
> Basically, take a look at the output of "tcpdump -d tcp port 22 or
> (vlan and tcp port 22)". Are the IPv4 tcp ports at x+14/x+16, or at
> x+18/x+20? If we're filtering in the kernel, they're at x+14/x+16
> whether the packet is vlan tagged or not. If we're filtering on the
> actual packet contents (from a savefile, for example), they're at
> x+18/x+20 if the packet is vlan tagged.
>
> Also, an expression such as 'tcp port 22' would have to have some
> instructions added at the beginning, for "vlan-tagged == false", or it
> would match both tagged and untagged packets.
>
> This would be much more straightforward to deal with in the code
> generation phase, except until now the code generation phase hasn't
> known whether the filter is headed for the kernel or not.
>
> Bill
>
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[not found] <CAOxq_8Nd8VP3MaNBfUt9v82nmGDpxZz5_5QMdsruET1tjwuQPw@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <3246.1351717319@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
2012-10-31 21:50 ` [tcpdump-workers] vlan tagged packets and libpcap breakage Ani Sinha
2012-10-31 22:20 ` Guy Harris
2012-10-31 22:35 ` Ani Sinha
2012-11-01 0:50 ` [tcpdump-workers] " Guy Harris
2012-11-01 1:22 ` Ani Sinha
2012-12-06 21:20 ` Ani Sinha
2012-11-02 16:13 ` Bill Fenner
2012-11-13 22:41 ` Ani Sinha [this message]
2012-11-13 22:42 ` Ani Sinha
2012-11-14 18:58 ` Michael Richardson
2012-10-31 22:42 ` [tcpdump-workers] " Michael Richardson
2012-12-12 21:53 ` Ani Sinha
2012-12-12 22:16 ` Ani Sinha
2012-12-13 8:35 ` [tcpdump-workers] " Daniel Borkmann
2012-12-13 17:34 ` Ani Sinha
2012-12-13 21:49 ` Daniel Borkmann
2012-12-13 22:07 ` Ani Sinha
2012-12-17 9:50 ` David Laight
2012-12-17 10:35 ` Guy Harris
2012-12-17 11:08 ` Daniel Borkmann
2012-12-17 19:49 ` [tcpdump-workers] " Ani Sinha
2012-11-16 6:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-17 22:14 ` Michael Richardson
2012-11-17 23:16 ` Daniel Borkmann
2012-11-17 23:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-11-17 23:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-12-06 21:22 ` Ani Sinha
2012-12-06 22:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-12-06 22:40 ` Ani Sinha
2012-12-07 0:55 ` Ani Sinha
2012-12-07 1:03 ` [tcpdump-workers] " Eric W. Biederman
2012-12-07 1:28 ` Ani Sinha
2012-12-07 1:31 ` Ani Sinha
2012-12-07 1:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-12-07 1:59 ` Michael Richardson
2012-12-11 0:11 ` [tcpdump-workers] " Ani Sinha
2012-12-11 22:36 ` Ani Sinha
2012-12-11 23:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2012-12-12 0:46 ` Ani Sinha
2012-12-12 0:50 ` [tcpdump-workers] " Ani Sinha
2012-12-11 23:12 ` Stephen Hemminger
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