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charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <623939E04067FD4B86620A32D34E57A5@namprd10.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: oracle.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: SJ0PR10MB4688.namprd10.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 1d675afe-86cc-42d7-1458-08d929d9c7ac X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 07 Jun 2021 17:29:18.3145 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4e2c6054-71cb-48f1-bd6c-3a9705aca71b X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: A/otbj/6Vh4d9Y/jEZ30+ulz1FHc44LHGqJ05NI2GMuiI81lqIfzIbhdjcMGrDui+XSmA/xTHcE7MglE1j/ZBQ== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BYAPR10MB2520 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6200 definitions=10008 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 phishscore=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=793 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2104190000 definitions=main-2106070122 X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: CBkVHm0n6mcruU48NqiTIuxQFlpYI1WE X-Proofpoint-GUID: CBkVHm0n6mcruU48NqiTIuxQFlpYI1WE Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org > On Jun 7, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Alexander Ahring Oder Aring wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > as I notice there exists several quic user space implementations, is > there any interest or process of doing an in-kernel implementation? I > am asking because I would like to try out quic with an in-kernel > application protocol like DLM. Besides DLM I've heard that the SMB > community is also interested into such implementation. The NFS community has standardized RPC-over-TLS as part of an effort to prepare for running NFS on QUIC transports. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpc-tls/ Towards that end, an in-kernel QUIC would need a way to perform transport security handshakes. Tempesta has one we are looking closely at -- it can support both TLS and QUIC. There's more work to be done to address the ways in which QUIC is different than existing transports (eg. its support for streams and transactions); however if Linux were to gain an in-kernel QUIC implementation, there is interest in seeing NFS use it. -- Chuck Lever