From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA94FC636CC for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 11:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230323AbjBGLUQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Feb 2023 06:20:16 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:43718 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229726AbjBGLUP (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Feb 2023 06:20:15 -0500 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4641:c500::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B06FBEFAA for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 03:20:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54163611B5 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 11:20:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 225E5C433D2; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 11:20:12 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1675768813; bh=6f3B48rxmBQjdRWhohv4VFKJPegEtPUeHZvgP80nCeg=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=M5QmM7O0O0esedqalWyLlFR3hQl6ia6SGe72stnwL6n7iqwmgN35D0ul1EyCeGnS2 8TCxipSWSl+0D687TcK9FlBSC9pxuiZC6ERD7EV2B/gqprZxLGZ0jAPtMITYMdPLWG 9c4P9r8hrJsUbJuj3Es48TXXlHWFiSO/bzxowJDarLQohS52YsVQnDNrtyZt4cF2gr p//VZQnLd1i+00whdGxTafsB95SdlPUKuSMGYUhTmbM5BNVg5h9Rm31r59kzgb1n3z YqJE/24yxIoTk+e/po+UdX6JWMa4BkQjGGbJFvEEvbAhLdogQ0ZIErdghQccgQovAd s4phmzNerUNeQ== Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2023 13:20:09 +0200 From: Leon Romanovsky To: Sven Eckelmann Cc: b.a.t.m.a.n@lists.open-mesh.org, Jiri Pirko , Linus =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCssing?= , kuba@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] batman-adv: Start new development cycle Message-ID: References: <20230127102133.700173-1-sw@simonwunderlich.de> <4503106.V25eIC5XRa@ripper> <3940036.VdNmn5OnKV@ripper> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3940036.VdNmn5OnKV@ripper> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: netdev@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 11:57:41AM +0100, Sven Eckelmann wrote: > On Tuesday, 7 February 2023 11:41:53 CET Leon Romanovsky wrote: > > Once you stop to update version, you will push users to look on the real > > version (kernel) which really matters. > > I would have understood if you say "let us use a magic value like 'in-tree' or > 'linux'" but setting it to an old (existing) version number - I don't want to > live with the headaches it creates. Because this is what users often don't > (want) to understand: if it looks like a valid version number, why isn't it > the valid version number? So I have to do a lot of pushing - without any > rewards because it is necessary to push every new "user". I'm not sharing your view about users and think they need to be educated, even it is hard and non-rewarding job. Thanks > > Kind regards, > Sven