netdev.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, andrew@lunn.ch,
	f.fainelli@gmail.com, hkallweit1@gmail.com,
	madalin.bucur@oss.nxp.com, calvin.johnson@oss.nxp.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 01/11] net: phy: Don't report success if devices weren't found
Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 16:02:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <be729566-5c63-a711-9a99-acc53d871b88@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200525094536.GK1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

Hi,

On 5/25/20 4:45 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux admin wrote:
> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 09:46:55PM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for taking a look at this.
>>
>> On 5/23/20 1:20 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux admin wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 04:30:49PM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote:
>>>> C45 devices are to return 0 for registers they haven't
>>>> implemented. This means in theory we can terminate the
>>>> device search loop without finding any MMDs. In that
>>>> case we want to immediately return indicating that
>>>> nothing was found rather than continuing to probe
>>>> and falling into the success state at the bottom.
>>>
>>> This is a little confusing when you read this comment:
>>>
>>>                           /*  If mostly Fs, there is no device there,
>>>                            *  then let's continue to probe more, as some
>>>                            *  10G PHYs have zero Devices In package,
>>>                            *  e.g. Cortina CS4315/CS4340 PHY.
>>>                            */
>>>
>>> Since it appears to be talking about the case of a PHY where *devs will
>>> be zero.  However, tracking down the original submission, it seems this
>>> is not the case at all, and the comment is grossly misleading.
>>>
>>> It seems these PHYs only report a valid data in the Devices In Package
>>> registers for devad=0 - it has nothing to do with a zero Devices In
>>> Package.
>>
>> Yes, this ended up being my understanding of this commit, and is part of my
>> justification for starting the devices search at the reserved address 0
>> rather than 1.
>>
>>>
>>> Can I suggest that this comment is fixed while we're changing the code
>>> to explicitly reject this "zero Devices In package" so that it's not
>>> confusing?
>>
>> Its probably better to kill it in 5/11 with a mention that we are starting
>> at a reserved address?
>>
>> OTOH, I'm a bit concerned that reading at 0 as the first address will cause
>> problems because the original code was only triggering it after a read
>> returning 0xFFFFFFFF at a valid MMD address. It does simplify/clarify the
>> loop though. If it weren't for this 0 read, I would have tried to avoid some
>> of the additional MMD reserved addresses.
> 
> Yes, that is the worry, and as MMD 0 is marked as reserved, I don't
> think we should routinely probe it.

Hmm, ok, so it gets a bit more complex then. The loop could probe all 
the valid MMD addresses, then if that doesn't appear to have yielded 
anything try the reserved ones? Its actually not a big code change 
because we could have a hardcoded bitfield of valid MMD addresses which 
we check before trying the probe. Then make one pass through the loop 
hitting the valid ones, and if we still didn't find anything, try the 
reserved addresses.


> 
> As I've already mentioned, note that bit 0 of devices-in-package does
> not mean that there is a MMD 0 implemented, even if bit 0 is set.  Bit
> 0 means that the clause 22 register set is available through clause 22
> cycles.  So, simplifying the loop to start at 0 and removing the work-
> around could end up breaking Cortina PHYs if they don't set bit 0 in
> their devices in package - but I don't see why we should depend on bit 0
> being set for their workaround.
Just to be clear this set probes MMD 0 except to ask for the device 
list. That is the same behavior as before. That is because all the 
subsequent id/etc loops are indexed to start at MMD 1. The primary 
difference for the cortiana PHY's AFAIK, is the order we ask for the 
devices list. Before it had to fail at a valid addr before reading 0, 
now it just starts at 0 and continues to probe if that fails. Some of 
this is required (continuing scan on failure) due to phys that "fail" 
reading the devices list for the lower MMD's addresses but work on the 
higher ones.


> 
> So, I think you're going to have to add a work-around to ignore bit 0,
> which brings up the question whether this is worth it or not.

It does ignore bit 0, it gets turned into the C22 regs flag, and 
cleared/ignored in the remainder of the code (do to MMD loop indexes 
starting at 1).

> 
> Hence, I think this is a "simplifcation" too far.
> 

Ok, if i'm understanding correctly, avoid the reserved addresses unless 
we fail to get a device list as before. That isn't a problem, I will 
include that in the next revision.


Thanks,


  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-25 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-22 21:30 [RFC 00/11] Make C45 autoprobe more robust Jeremy Linton
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 01/11] net: phy: Don't report success if devices weren't found Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 18:20   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25  2:46     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25  9:45       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 21:02         ` Jeremy Linton [this message]
2020-05-25 21:07           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 21:59             ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 02/11] net: phy: Simplify MMD device list termination Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 18:36   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25  2:48     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25  8:09       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 03/11] net: phy: refactor c45 phy identification sequence Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 15:28   ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-23 17:16     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 17:32     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 19:12       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-23 18:30   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-23 19:51     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-23 20:01       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25  2:37         ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 04/11] net: phy: Handle c22 regs presence better Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 18:37   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25  3:34     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25  9:53       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 10:06       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 21:51         ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 22:01           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 22:22             ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 23:09               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 23:22                 ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 23:33                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 23:42                     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 23:46                       ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-25 23:57                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 23:16             ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 23:30               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 22:06           ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-25 22:17             ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 23:06               ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-25 23:07               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 23:12                 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-25 23:46                   ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 23:47                     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 05/11] net: phy: Scan the entire MMD device space Jeremy Linton
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 06/11] net: phy: Hoist no phy detected state Jeremy Linton
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 07/11] net: phy: reset invalid phy reads of 0 back to 0xffffffff Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 18:44   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25  4:20     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25  8:20       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 08/11] net: phy: Allow mdio buses to auto-probe c45 devices Jeremy Linton
2020-05-24 14:44   ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-25  4:28     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25  8:25       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-25 13:43         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-25 22:09         ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-25 22:41           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 09/11] net: phy: Refuse to consider phy_id=0 a valid phy Jeremy Linton
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 10/11] net: example acpize xgmac_mdio Jeremy Linton
2020-05-23 18:48   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-22 21:30 ` [RFC 11/11] net: example xgmac enable extended scanning Jeremy Linton

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=be729566-5c63-a711-9a99-acc53d871b88@arm.com \
    --to=jeremy.linton@arm.com \
    --cc=andrew@lunn.ch \
    --cc=calvin.johnson@oss.nxp.com \
    --cc=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=f.fainelli@gmail.com \
    --cc=hkallweit1@gmail.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux@armlinux.org.uk \
    --cc=madalin.bucur@oss.nxp.com \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).