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From: Tariq Toukan <tariqt@mellanox.com>
To: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"brouer@redhat.com" <brouer@redhat.com>,
	"toke@redhat.com" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mgorman@techsingularity.net" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC, PATCH] net: page_pool: Don't use page->private to store dma_addr_t
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2019 08:53:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bfd83487-7073-18c8-6d89-e50fe9a83313@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190207214237.GA10676@Iliass-MBP.lan>



On 2/7/2019 11:42 PM, Ilias Apalodimas wrote:
> Hi Matthew,
> 
> On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 01:34:00PM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 01:25:19PM -0800, David Miller wrote:
>>> From: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
>>> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 17:20:34 +0200
>>>
>>>> Well updating struct page is the final goal, hence the comment. I am mostly
>>>> looking for opinions here since we are trying to store dma addresses which are
>>>> irrelevant to pages. Having dma_addr_t definitions in mm-related headers is a
>>>> bit controversial isn't it ? If we can add that, then yes the code would look
>>>> better
>>>
>>> I fundamentally disagree.
>>>
>>> One of the core operations performed on a page is mapping it so that a device
>>> and use it.
>>>
>>> Why have ancillary data structure support for this all over the place, rather
>>> than in the common spot which is the page.
>>>
>>> A page really is not just a 'mm' structure, it is a system structure.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> The fundamental point of computing is to do I/O.
> Ok, great that should sort it out then.
> I'll use your proposal and base the patch on that.
> 
> Thanks for taking the time with this
> 
> /Ilias
> 

Hi,

It's great to use the struct page to store its dma mapping, but I am 
worried about extensibility.
page_pool is evolving, and it would need several more per-page fields. 
One of them would be pageref_bias, a planned optimization to reduce the 
number of the costly atomic pageref operations (and replace existing 
code in several drivers).

I would replace this dma field with a pointer to an extensible struct, 
that would contain the dma mapping (and other stuff in the near future).
This pointer fits perfectly with the existing unsigned long private; 
they can share the memory, for both 32- and 64-bits systems.

The only downside is one more pointer de-reference. This should be perf 
tested.
However, when introducing the page refcnt bias optimization into 
page_pool, I believe the perf gain would be guaranteed.

Regards,
Tariq

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-11  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-07 14:36 [RFC, PATCH] net: page_pool: Don't use page->private to store dma_addr_t Ilias Apalodimas
2019-02-07 15:07 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-07 15:20   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2019-02-07 21:25     ` David Miller
2019-02-07 21:34       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-07 21:42         ` Ilias Apalodimas
2019-02-11  8:53           ` Tariq Toukan [this message]
2019-02-11 12:12             ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-11 15:38               ` Tariq Toukan
2019-02-11 17:14             ` Eric Dumazet
2019-02-12 12:39               ` Tariq Toukan
2019-02-12 13:49                 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2019-02-12 14:58                   ` Tariq Toukan
2019-02-12 15:15                 ` Eric Dumazet
2019-02-12 18:13                   ` Alexander Duyck
2019-02-12 18:20                     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2019-02-13  8:50                       ` Tariq Toukan
2019-02-13  8:46                     ` Tariq Toukan
2019-02-07 21:37       ` Ilias Apalodimas

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