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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Tiwei Bie <tiwei.bie@intel.com>,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, maxime.coquelin@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, dan.daly@intel.com,
	cunming.liang@intel.com, zhihong.wang@intel.com,
	lingshan.zhu@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v4 0/3] vhost: introduce mdev based hardware backend
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 21:08:11 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d2efe7e4-cf13-437d-e2dc-e2779fac7d2f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190918102923-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>


On 2019/9/18 下午10:32, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> So I have some questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Compared to method 2, what's the advantage of creating a new vhost char
>>>> device? I guess it's for keep the API compatibility?
>>> One benefit is that we can avoid doing vhost ioctls on
>>> VFIO device fd.
>> Yes, but any benefit from doing this?
> It does seem a bit more modular, but it's certainly not a big deal.


Ok, if we go this way, it could be as simple as provide some callback to 
vhost, then vhost can just forward the ioctl through parent_ops.


>
>>>> 2) For method 2, is there any easy way for user/admin to distinguish e.g
>>>> ordinary vfio-mdev for vhost from ordinary vfio-mdev?
>>> I think device-api could be a choice.
>> Ok.
>>
>>
>>>> I saw you introduce
>>>> ops matching helper but it's not friendly to management.
>>> The ops matching helper is just to check whether a given
>>> vfio-device is based on a mdev device.
>>>
>>>> 3) A drawback of 1) and 2) is that it must follow vfio_device_ops that
>>>> assumes the parameter comes from userspace, it prevents support kernel
>>>> virtio drivers.
>>>>
>>>> 4) So comes the idea of method 3, since it register a new vhost-mdev driver,
>>>> we can use device specific ops instead of VFIO ones, then we can have a
>>>> common API between vDPA parent and vhost-mdev/virtio-mdev drivers.
>>> As the above draft shows, this requires introducing a new
>>> VFIO device driver. I think Alex's opinion matters here.


Just to clarify, a new type of mdev driver but provides dummy 
vfio_device_ops for VFIO to make container DMA ioctl work.

Thanks


>> Yes, it is.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-19 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-17  1:02 [RFC v4 0/3] vhost: introduce mdev based hardware backend Tiwei Bie
2019-09-17  1:02 ` [RFC v4 1/3] vfio: support getting vfio device from device fd Tiwei Bie
2019-09-17  1:02 ` [RFC v4 2/3] vfio: support checking vfio driver by device ops Tiwei Bie
2019-09-17  1:02 ` [RFC v4 3/3] vhost: introduce mdev based hardware backend Tiwei Bie
2019-09-17  7:26   ` Jason Wang
2019-09-20  4:21     ` Tiwei Bie
2019-09-17  1:29 ` [RFC v4 0/3] " Jason Wang
2019-09-17  3:32 ` Jason Wang
2019-09-17 10:58   ` Tiwei Bie
2019-09-18  5:51     ` Jason Wang
2019-09-18 14:32       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-09-19 13:08         ` Jason Wang [this message]
2019-09-19 15:45           ` Tiwei Bie
2019-09-20  0:59             ` Jason Wang
2019-09-20  1:30             ` Jason Wang
2019-09-20  2:16               ` Tiwei Bie
2019-09-20  2:36                 ` Jason Wang

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