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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Paasch <christoph.paasch@gmail.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jonathan Looney <jtl@netflix.com>,
	Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>,
	Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@canonical.com>,
	Yuchung Cheng <ycheng@google.com>,
	Bruce Curtis <brucec@netflix.com>,
	Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>,
	Dustin Marquess <dmarquess@apple.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 2/4] tcp: tcp_fragment() should apply sane memory limits
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2019 21:08:37 -0700
Message-ID: <e072881f-a676-f98b-19fd-4eb3315ad0f3@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMXkpYs8KN0DmXV+37grbS0Y4Q-DAM-_GVZy+qWi2dtV+cDPA@mail.gmail.com>



On 6/17/19 8:53 PM, Christoph Paasch wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 8:44 PM Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/19 8:19 PM, Christoph Paasch wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, this does the trick for my packetdrill-test.
>>>
>>> I wonder, is there a way we could end up in a situation where we can't
>>> retransmit anymore?
>>> For example, sk_wmem_queued has grown so much that the new test fails.
>>> Then, if we legitimately need to fragment in __tcp_retransmit_skb() we
>>> won't be able to do so. So we will never retransmit. And if no ACK
>>> comes back in to make some room we are stuck, no?
>>
>> Well, RTO will eventually fire.
> 
> But even the RTO would have to go through __tcp_retransmit_skb(), and
> let's say the MTU of the interface changed and thus we need to
> fragment. tcp_fragment() would keep on failing then, no? Sure,
> eventually we will ETIMEOUT but that's a long way to go.

Also I want to point that normal skb split for not-yet transmitted skbs
does not use tcp_fragment(), with one exception (the one you hit)

Only the first skb in write queue can possibly have payload in skb->head
and might go through tcp_fragment()

Other splits will use tso_fragment() which does not enforce sk_wmem_queued limits (yet)

So things like TLP should work.

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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-17 17:03 [PATCH net 0/4] tcp: make sack processing more robust Eric Dumazet
2019-06-17 17:03 ` [PATCH net 1/4] tcp: limit payload size of sacked skbs Eric Dumazet
2019-06-17 17:14   ` Jonathan Lemon
2019-06-17 17:03 ` [PATCH net 2/4] tcp: tcp_fragment() should apply sane memory limits Eric Dumazet
2019-06-17 17:14   ` Jonathan Lemon
2019-06-18  0:18   ` Christoph Paasch
2019-06-18  2:28     ` Eric Dumazet
2019-06-18  3:19       ` Christoph Paasch
2019-06-18  3:44         ` Eric Dumazet
2019-06-18  3:53           ` Christoph Paasch
2019-06-18  4:08             ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2019-07-10 18:23         ` Prout, Andrew - LLSC - MITLL
2019-07-10 18:28           ` Eric Dumazet
2019-07-10 18:53             ` Prout, Andrew - LLSC - MITLL
2019-07-10 19:26               ` Eric Dumazet
2019-07-11  7:28                 ` Christoph Paasch
2019-07-11  9:19                   ` Eric Dumazet
2019-07-11 18:26                     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-07-11 18:50                       ` Eric Dumazet
2019-07-11 10:18                   ` Eric Dumazet
2019-07-11 17:14                 ` Prout, Andrew - LLSC - MITLL
2019-07-11 18:28                   ` Eric Dumazet
2019-07-11 19:04                     ` Jonathan Lemon
2019-07-12  7:05                       ` Eric Dumazet
2019-07-16 15:13                   ` Prout, Andrew - LLSC - MITLL
2019-06-17 17:03 ` [PATCH net 3/4] tcp: add tcp_min_snd_mss sysctl Eric Dumazet
2019-06-17 17:15   ` Jonathan Lemon
2019-06-17 17:18   ` Tyler Hicks
2019-06-17 17:03 ` [PATCH net 4/4] tcp: enforce tcp_min_snd_mss in tcp_mtu_probing() Eric Dumazet
2019-06-17 17:16   ` Jonathan Lemon
2019-06-17 17:18   ` Tyler Hicks
2019-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH net 0/4] tcp: make sack processing more robust David Miller
2019-08-02 19:02 [PATCH net 2/4] tcp: tcp_fragment() should apply sane memory limits Bernd
2019-08-02 19:14 ` Neal Cardwell
2019-08-02 19:58   ` Bernd
2019-08-14 14:41     ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner

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