From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, LKP <lkp@01.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>,
Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: inet: frags: Turn fqdir->dead into an int for old Alphas
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2019 09:13:09 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f8908fc1-102e-c02f-6574-56cf053d791e@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190607153226.gzt4yeq5c5i6bpqd@gondor.apana.org.au>
On 6/7/19 8:32 AM, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 08:26:12AM -0700, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>>
>> There is common knowledge among us programmers that bit fields
>> (or bool) sharing a common 'word' need to be protected
>> with a common lock.
>>
>> Converting all bit fields to plain int/long would be quite a waste of memory.
>>
>> In this case, fqdir_exit() is called right before the whole
>> struct fqdir is dismantled, and the only cpu that could possibly
>> change the thing is ourself, and we are going to start an RCU grace period.
>>
>> Note that first cache line in 'struct fqdir' is read-only.
>> Only ->dead field is flipped to one at exit time.
>>
>> Your patch would send a strong signal to programmers to not even try using
>> bit fields.
>>
>> Do we really want that ?
>
> If this were a bitfield then I'd think it would be safer because
> anybody adding a new bitfield is unlikely to try modifying both
> fields without locking or atomic ops.
>
> However, because this is a boolean, I can certainly see someone
> else coming along and adding another bool right next to it and
> expecting writes them to still be atomic.
>
> As it stands, my patch has zero impact on memory usage because
> it's simply using existing padding. Should this become an issue
> in future, we can always revisit this and use a more appropriate
> method of addressing it.
>
> But the point is to alert future developers that this field is
> not an ordinary boolean.
Okay, but you added a quite redundant comment.
/* We can't use boolean because this needs atomic writes. */
Should we add a similar comment in front of all bit-fields,
or could we factorize this in a proper Documentation perhaps ?
Can we just add a proper bit-field and not the comment ?
unsigned int dead:1;
This way, next programmer can just apply normal rules to add a new bit.
Thanks !
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2019-06-02 5:56 ` rcu_read_lock lost its compiler barrier Herbert Xu
2019-06-02 20:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-03 2:46 ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03 3:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 4:01 ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03 4:17 ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03 7:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 8:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 15:26 ` David Laight
2019-06-03 15:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-03 5:26 ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03 6:42 ` Boqun Feng
2019-06-03 20:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-04 14:44 ` Alan Stern
2019-06-04 16:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-04 17:00 ` Alan Stern
2019-06-04 17:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-07 14:09 ` inet: frags: Turn fqdir->dead into an int for old Alphas Herbert Xu
2019-06-07 15:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2019-06-07 15:32 ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-07 16:13 ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2019-06-07 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-08 15:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-08 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-08 17:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-08 18:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-08 18:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06 4:51 ` rcu_read_lock lost its compiler barrier Herbert Xu
2019-06-06 6:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06 6:14 ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-06 9:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06 9:28 ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-06 10:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06 13:38 ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-06 13:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06 8:16 ` Andrea Parri
2019-06-06 14:19 ` Alan Stern
2019-06-08 15:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-08 15:56 ` Alan Stern
2019-06-08 16:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 9:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06 8:38 ` Andrea Parri
2019-06-06 9:32 ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03 0:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 3:03 ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03 9:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 15:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-03 16:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-03 19:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 20:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-04 21:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-05 2:21 ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-05 3:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06 4:37 ` Herbert Xu
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