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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@kernel.org>,
	netfilter-devel <netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH nf-next] netfilter: nf_tables: add ebpf expression
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 08:39:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQJp5RJ0kZundd5ag-b3SDYir8cF4R_nVbN8Zj9Rcn0rww@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220831152624.GA15107@breakpoint.cc>

On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 8:31 AM Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de> wrote:
>
> Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > Same with a 'nft list ruleset > /etc/nft.txt', reboot,
> > > 'nft -f /etc/nft.txt' fails because user forgot to load/pin the program
> > > first.
> >
> > Right, so under what conditions is the identifier expected to survive,
> > exactly? It's okay if it fails after a reboot, but it should keep
> > working while the system is up?
>
> Right, thats the question.  I think it boils down to 'least surprise',
> which to me would mean useable labels are:
>
> 1. pinned name
> 2. elf filename
> 3. filter name
>
> 3) has the advantage that afaiu I can extend nft to use the dumped
> id + program tag to query the name from the kernel, whereas 1+2 would
> need to store the label.
>
> 1 and 2 have the upside that its easy to handle a 'file not found'
> error.

I'm strongly against calling into bpf from the inner guts of nft.
Nack to all options discussed in this thread.
None of them make any sense.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-31 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-31 10:16 [PATCH nf-next] netfilter: nf_tables: add ebpf expression Florian Westphal
2022-08-31 12:13 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-08-31 12:56   ` Florian Westphal
2022-08-31 13:41     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-08-31 13:57       ` Florian Westphal
2022-08-31 14:43         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-08-31 15:09           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2022-08-31 15:35             ` Florian Westphal
2022-08-31 20:38               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2022-08-31 15:26           ` Florian Westphal
2022-08-31 15:39             ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2022-08-31 15:53               ` Florian Westphal
2022-08-31 17:26                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-31 21:49                   ` Daniel Borkmann
2022-09-01  5:18                     ` Eyal Birger
2022-09-02 16:53                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-09-05 17:50                         ` Eyal Birger
2022-09-01 10:14                     ` Florian Westphal
2022-09-02 17:06                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-09-02 17:52                         ` Florian Westphal
2022-08-31 21:57                   ` Florian Westphal
2022-09-06  6:57                     ` Nicolas Dichtel
2022-09-07  3:04                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-09-07 15:52                         ` Nicolas Dichtel
2022-09-01  8:08                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2022-08-31 20:44             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-08-31 13:44     ` Florian Westphal

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