From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from NAM10-MW2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-mw2nam10on2078.outbound.protection.outlook.com. [40.107.94.78]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l9si623759pjf.1.2021.11.29.16.01.52 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Nov 2021 16:01:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2021 20:01:50 -0400 From: Jason Gunthorpe Subject: Re: [patch 21/32] NTB/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc() Message-ID: <20211130000150.GB4670@nvidia.com> References: <20211126230957.239391799@linutronix.de> <20211126232735.547996838@linutronix.de> <7daba0e2-73a3-4980-c3a5-a71f6b597b22@deltatee.com> <874k7ueldt.ffs@tglx> <6ba084d6-2b26-7c86-4526-8fcd3d921dfd@deltatee.com> <20211129233133.GA4670@nvidia.com> <7c5626d2-ad80-24eb-0b89-402562156135@deltatee.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7c5626d2-ad80-24eb-0b89-402562156135@deltatee.com> Return-Path: jgg@nvidia.com MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Logan Gunthorpe Cc: Thomas Gleixner , LKML , Bjorn Helgaas , Marc Zygnier , Alex Williamson , Kevin Tian , Megha Dey , Ashok Raj , linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , Jon Mason , Dave Jiang , Allen Hubbe , linux-ntb@googlegroups.com, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Heiko Carstens , Christian Borntraeger List-ID: On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 04:52:35PM -0700, Logan Gunthorpe wrote: > > > On 2021-11-29 4:31 p.m., Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 03:27:20PM -0700, Logan Gunthorpe wrote: > > > >> In most cases, the NTB code needs more interrupts than the hardware > >> actually provides for in its MSI-X table. That's what PCI_IRQ_VIRTUAL is > >> for: it allows the driver to request more interrupts than the hardware > >> advertises (ie. pci_msix_vec_count()). These extra interrupts are > >> created, but get flagged with msi_attrib.is_virtual which ensures > >> functions that program the MSI-X table don't try to write past the end > >> of the hardware's table. > > > > AFAICT what you've described is what Intel is calling IMS in other > > contexts. > > > > IMS is fundamentally a way to control MSI interrupt descriptors that > > are not accessed through PCI SIG compliant means. In this case the NTB > > driver has to do its magic to relay the addr/data pairs to the real > > MSI storage in the hidden devices. > > With current applications, it isn't that there is real "MSI storage" > anywhere; the device on the other side of the bridge is always another > Linux host which holds the address (or rather mw offset) and data in > memory to use when it needs to trigger the interrupt of the other > machine. Sure, that is fine "MSI Storage". The triggering device only needs to store the addr/data pair someplace to be "MSI Storage". Jason