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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>, Marc Zygnier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Megha Dey <megha.dey@intel.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Jon Mason <jdmason@kudzu.us>, Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	Allen Hubbe <allenbh@gmail.com>,
	linux-ntb@googlegroups.com, Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 31/32] genirq/msi: Simplify sysfs handling
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 20:33:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871r30f53a.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YaNi2RkiYdnoEDau@kroah.com>

On Sun, Nov 28 2021 at 12:07, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 08:31:37PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 27 2021 at 13:32, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>> > On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 02:23:15AM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> >> The sysfs handling for MSI is a convoluted maze and it is in the way of
>> >> supporting dynamic expansion of the MSI-X vectors because it only supports
>> >> a one off bulk population/free of the sysfs entries.
>> >> 
>> >> Change it to do:
>> >> 
>> >>    1) Creating an empty sysfs attribute group when msi_device_data is
>> >>       allocated
>> >> 
>> >>    2) Populate the entries when the MSI descriptor is initialized
>> >
>> > How much later does this happen?  Can it happen while the device has a
>> > driver bound to it?
>> 
>> That's not later than before. It's when the driver initializes the
>> MSI[X] interrupts, which usually happens in the probe() function.
>> 
>> The difference is that the group, (i.e.) directory is created slightly
>> earlier.
>
> Ok, but that still happens when probe() is called for the driver,
> right?

Yes.

>> >> +static inline int msi_sysfs_create_group(struct device *dev)
>> >> +{
>> >> +	return devm_device_add_group(dev, &msi_irqs_group);
>> >
>> > Much nicer, but you changed the lifetime rules of when these attributes
>> > will be removed, is that ok?
>> 
>> The msi entries are removed at the same place as they are removed in the
>> current mainline code, i.e. when the device driver shuts the device
>> down and disables MSI[X], which happens usually during remove()
>> 
>> What's different now is that the empty group stays around a bit
>> longer. I don't see how that matters.
>
> How much longer does it stick around?
>
> What happens if this sequence happens:
> 	- probe()
> 	- disconnect()
> 	- probe()
> with the same device (i.e. the device is not removed from the system)?
>
> Which can happen as userspace can trigger disconnect() or even worse, if
> the driver is unloaded and then loaded again?  Will the second call to
> create this directory fail as it is not cleaned up yet?
>
> I can never remember if devm_*() stuff sticks around for the device
> lifecycle, or for the driver/device lifecycle, which is one big reason
> why I don't like that api...

Driver lifecycle AFAICT.

>> > I still worry that these attributes show up "after" the device is
>> > registered with the driver core, but hey, it's no worse than it
>> > currently is, so that's not caused by this patch series...
>> 
>> Happens that register before or after driver->probe()?
>
> During probe is a bit too late, but we can handle that as we are used to
> it.  If it happens after probe() succeeds, based on something else being
> asked for in the driver (like the device being opened), then userspace
> has no chance of ever noticing these attributes being added.
>
> But again, this isn't new to your code series, so I wouldn't worry about
> it.  Obviously userspace tools do not care or really notice these
> attributes at all otherwise the authors of them would have complained
> a long time ago :)

I have no idea how these attributes are used at all. Neil should knows
as he added it in the first place.

> So again, no real objection from me here, just meta-comments, except for
> the above thing with the devm_* call to ensure that the
> probe/disconnect/probe sequence will still work just as well as it does
> today.  Should be easy enough to test out by just unloading a module and
> then loading it again with this patch series applied.

That works just fine. Tested that already before posting. After module
removal the directory is gone.

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-28 19:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-27  1:23 [patch 00/32] genirq/msi, PCI/MSI: Spring cleaning - Part 2 Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 01/32] genirq/msi: Move descriptor list to struct msi_device_data Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:19   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 02/32] genirq/msi: Add mutex for MSI list protection Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 03/32] genirq/msi: Provide msi_domain_alloc/free_irqs_descs_locked() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 04/32] genirq/msi: Provide a set of advanced MSI accessors and iterators Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28  1:00   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-28 19:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29  9:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 14:01         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 14:46           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 05/32] genirq/msi: Provide msi_alloc_msi_desc() and a simple allocator Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 06/32] genirq/msi: Provide domain flags to allocate/free MSI descriptors automatically Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 07/32] genirq/msi: Count the allocated MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:19   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27 19:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 19:45       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28 11:07         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-28 19:23           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 08/32] PCI/MSI: Protect MSI operations Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 09/32] PCI/MSI: Use msi_add_msi_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 10/32] PCI/MSI: Let core code free MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 11/32] PCI/MSI: Use msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 12/32] x86/pci/xen: Use msi_for_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 13/32] xen/pcifront: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 14/32] s390/pci: Rework MSI descriptor walk Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 10:31   ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-11-29 13:04     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 15/32] powerpc/4xx/hsta: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 16/32] powerpc/cell/axon_msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 17/32] powerpc/pasemi/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_dec() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 18/32] powerpc/fsl_msi: Use msi_for_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:23 ` [patch 19/32] powerpc/mpic_u3msi: Use msi_for_each-desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 20/32] PCI: hv: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 21/32] NTB/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 18:21   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 20:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 22:27       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 22:50         ` Dave Jiang
2021-11-29 23:31         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 23:52           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30  0:01             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30  0:29         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-30 19:21           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 19:48             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-30 20:14               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 20:28               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 21:23                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01  0:17                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 10:16                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 13:00                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 17:35                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:14                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 18:46                             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 20:21                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02  0:01                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02 13:55                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 14:23                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-02 14:45                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 19:25                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02 20:00                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 22:31                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-03  0:37                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-03 15:07                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-03 16:41                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-04 14:20                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-05 14:16                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 14:43                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 15:47                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 17:00                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 20:28                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 21:06                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 22:21                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 14:19                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 15:06                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09  6:26                                               ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  9:03                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 12:17                                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09 15:57                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  7:37                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  5:41                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  5:47                                     ` Jason Wang
2021-12-01 16:28                       ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 18:41                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:47                           ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 20:25                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 21:21                               ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 21:44                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 21:49                                   ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 22:03                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 22:53                                       ` Dave Jiang
2021-12-01 23:57                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09  5:23                                   ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09  8:37                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 12:31                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-09 16:21                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-09 20:32                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-09 20:58                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-09 22:09                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  0:26                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-10  7:29                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:13                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-11  8:06                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:39                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10 19:00                                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-11  7:44                                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-11 13:04                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12  1:56                                                           ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12 20:55                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12 23:37                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-13  7:50                                                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-11  7:52                                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12  0:12                                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12  2:14                                                         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-12 20:50                                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12 23:42                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10  7:36                                             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:30                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-12  6:44                                               ` Mika Penttilä
2021-12-12 23:27                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 14:52                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 15:11                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 18:37                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:47                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 20:26                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 22/32] soc: ti: ti_sci_inta_msi: Rework MSI descriptor allocation Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 23/32] soc: ti: ti_sci_inta_msi: Remove ti_sci_inta_msi_domain_free_irqs() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 24/32] bus: fsl-mc-msi: Simplify MSI descriptor handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 25/32] platform-msi: Let core code handle MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 26/32] platform-msi: Simplify platform device MSI code Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 27/32] genirq/msi: Make interrupt allocation less convoluted Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 28/32] genirq/msi: Convert to new functions Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 29/32] genirq/msi: Mop up old interfaces Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 30/32] genirq/msi: Add abuse prevention comment to msi header Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 31/32] genirq/msi: Simplify sysfs handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:32   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27 19:31     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28 11:07       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-28 19:33         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2021-11-27  1:24 ` [patch 32/32] genirq/msi: Convert storage to xarray Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:33   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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