From: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: "Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] mm: remove extra ZONE_DEVICE struct page refcount
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 19:51:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48eaf3d9-b9b4-09b7-379f-edc48d06820d@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4g7+FTNi-vFvx_3qzrosTSET6nPc=ozdxs=p1dm0hBJtg@mail.gmail.com>
On 10/20/21 18:12, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 10:09 AM Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com> wrote:
>> On 10/19/21 20:21, Dan Williams wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 9:02 AM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 04:13:34PM +0100, Joao Martins wrote:
>>>>> On 10/19/21 00:06, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 12:37:30PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>>>>> Whats the benefit between preventing longterm at start
>>>>> versus only after mounting the filesystem? Or is the intended future purpose
>>>>> to pass more context into an holder potential future callback e.g. nack longterm
>>>>> pins on a page basis?
>>>>
>>>> I understood Dan's remark that the device-dax path allows
>>>> FOLL_LONGTERM and the FSDAX path does not ?
>>>>
>>>> Which, IIRC, today is signaled basd on vma properties and in all cases
>>>> fast-gup is denied.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I forgot that 7af75561e171 eliminated any possibility of
>>> longterm-gup-fast for device-dax, let's not disturb that status quo.
>>>
>> I am slightly confused by this comment -- the status quo is what we are
>> questioning here -- And we talked about changing that in the past too
>> (thread below), that longterm-gup-fast was an oversight that that commit
>> was only applicable to fsdax. [Maybe this is just my english confusion]
>
> No, you have it correct. However that "regression" has gone unnoticed,
> so unless there is data showing that gup-fast on device-dax is
> critical for longterm page pinning workflows I'm ok for longterm to
> continue to trigger gup-slow.
>
To be fair, it's not surprising that nobody noticed -- my general intent
was just to special-case less for device-dax. Not many places use
pin_user_pages_fast(FOLL_LONGTERM). This is only exposed on those
few cases that do try to use it (e.g. RDMA/IB, vDPA), and specifically
when the page fault occurs (that requires fallback-ing to gup-slow) at a
higher level than the amount you're pinning e.g. pinning in 2M extents on a
device-dax of 1G pagesize. Pin size is limited to a 2M extent at a time by the
users I mentioned above -- regardless of the total size of the extent you will
be pinning (i.e. 512 struct pages pointers fit one page). But even with all this,
this [FOLL_LONGTERM on pin-fast] would still go unnoticed because gup-fast
on devmap is just as slow as gup :)
prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-20 18:52 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <20211014153928.16805-3-alex.sierra@amd.com>
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2021-10-14 18:43 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] mm: remove extra ZONE_DEVICE struct page refcount Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-14 19:01 ` Dan Williams
2021-10-14 23:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-15 1:37 ` Dan Williams
2021-10-16 15:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-16 16:39 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-17 18:20 ` Dan Williams
2021-10-17 18:35 ` Dan Williams
2021-10-18 18:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-18 19:37 ` Dan Williams
2021-10-18 23:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-19 15:13 ` Joao Martins
2021-10-19 16:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-10-19 19:21 ` Dan Williams
2021-10-20 17:06 ` Joao Martins
2021-10-20 17:12 ` Dan Williams
2021-10-20 18:51 ` Joao Martins [this message]
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